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Re: Let's Make the Web Weird Again [audio]

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Post by akalsz » Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 7:40 PM UTC

pabs3 wrote: post #32

echelon wrote: post #3

> "You must enable DRM to play some audio or video on this page" No. No no no no no. This isn't right. The modern Internet is such sellout. It didn't turn out anything like what I'd hoped. Bittorrent, semantic tagging, RSS, decentralized aggregation. Ownership . All dead or dying. These companies are all gobbling up the commons and pushing us into serfdom. Apple, Google, the RIAA. The whole lot of them have poached a…

Gemini might be a good replacement for the web: https://gemini.circumlunar.space/

Gemini is more like a modern Gopher than a web replacement. Well it's described as something inbetween, but I personally see the end result to be far closer to the former.

Re: Let's Make the Web Weird Again [audio]

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Post by pabs3 » Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 10:42 PM UTC

akalsz wrote: post #51

pabs3 wrote: post #32

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Gemini might be a good replacement for the web: https://gemini.circumlunar.space/

Gemini is more like a modern Gopher than a web replacement. Well it's described as something inbetween, but I personally see the end result to be far closer to the former.

Gemini seems like the best option to replace the web. We could also just get rid of JavaScript and CSS but I don't see that happening.

Re: Let's Make the Web Weird Again [audio]

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Post by npteljes » Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 11:32 PM UTC

wyre wrote: post #20

tleb_ wrote: post #18

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Those are cool when you live in the CLI. My mom doesn't though, being part of a small cluster of hackers is cool but not what the internet should be. My goal once I can finance it is to create a virtual island that my family and close friends can rely on for vital services: emails, file hosting, calendar, contacts, a public web space, etc. If every hacker did this for its close circle the impact would be far greater…

> create a virtual island That sounds like a really cool project. What would the costs be to finance that?

Cost I think is negligible, or at least affordable, what I wouldn't like in this scenario is the _responsibility_. The part where uptime depends on you, bugs creep into the system and they become your fault, you bork something and lose some data, and you have to keep everything up to date and interoperable and compatible with whatever current tech everyone uses for access.

Re: Let's Make the Web Weird Again [audio]

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Post by andy_ppp » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 9:25 AM UTC

Pelic4n wrote: post #49

andy_ppp wrote: post #40

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It's a good point about 50% of profits; that 30% revenue share is crazy - even the government don't attempt to tax businesses on their revenue... Depending on the business 30% could make the whole enterprise operate at a loss, for example selling audiobooks or media or other real world products.

>even the government don't attempt to tax businesses on their revenue... Everywhere around the world countries have figured out that was a good idea and have implemented a VAT. Amazon pays more taxes in my country than in the US lmao.

Sure so apple is worse than VAT almost everywhere and they aren't the government, a real selling point. I wouldn't be so sure how much amazon is actually paying in tax given their history.