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South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by robertoandred »

Forge36 wrote: post #160
aazaa wrote: post #77

Politics seems to be a factor here, but I wonder how much of this has to do with popular culture. Over the last 20 years we've been bombarded with metric tons of Apocalypse porn, a lot of it focused on killer viruses. Most of those movies are unrealistic to put it mildly. Zombies. Deserted cities. Rotting corpses on sidewalks. Visible, palpable nauseating death. This pandemic is nothing like those movies. I know of n…

Contagion feels like a stretch because everyone has PPE. News teams aren't sending camera crews into the overflow hospitals being setup. Hard to show full hospitals ("rooms are full" doesn't look good on TV), nor could TV crews go into Patient rooms and show what it looks like (social media is doing this, but typically for patient's who are surviving as personal accounts).

World News Tonight showed a hospital and a patient in his room last night.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by shaftway »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #457
scarmig wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Implicit in your comment is the assumption that places that have had the highest death rates so far have more to worry about than places that have had the lowest death rates so far.

We got here by whalesalad complaining about people that don't wear masks. What's the point of masks? To slow the spread of the disease. So unless you've got some reason to think that death rates per infection are radically higher in Detroit than anywhere else along the route, then death rates are a somewhat-imperfect-but-still-somewhat-useful proxy for infection rates. And therefore your comment is pretty pointless.…

Unrelated, but I can't help it.

I assume "whalesalad" was a bad autocorrect that was meant to be "wholesale". But since most autocorrects learn from your past typing, I'm really curious what opportunity you had in the past to use the term "whalesalad".

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by paxunix »

shaftway wrote: post #492
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #457

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We got here by whalesalad complaining about people that don't wear masks. What's the point of masks? To slow the spread of the disease. So unless you've got some reason to think that death rates per infection are radically higher in Detroit than anywhere else along the route, then death rates are a somewhat-imperfect-but-still-somewhat-useful proxy for infection rates. And therefore your comment is pretty pointless.…

Unrelated, but I can't help it. I assume "whalesalad" was a bad autocorrect that was meant to be "wholesale". But since most autocorrects learn from your past typing, I'm really curious what opportunity you had in the past to use the term "whalesalad".

I wanted this to be true, but "whalesalad" was the thread's top-post user.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by shaftway »

paxunix wrote: post #493
shaftway wrote: post #492

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unrelated, but I can't help it. I assume "whalesalad" was a bad autocorrect that was meant to be "wholesale". But since most autocorrects learn from your past typing, I'm really curious what opportunity you had in the past to use the term "whalesalad".

I wanted this to be true, but "whalesalad" was the thread's top-post user.

That only means the conspiracy goes deeper.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

jdhn wrote: post #35

I feel like I've seen versions of this story pop up throughout the year, and it seems that others have too [0]. I guess I remain skeptical as to whether this actually happened until more proof can be provided. [0] https://twitter.com/annbauerwriter/status/132853834817300480...

Interesting.

I followed the links, and found one that seemed legit: https://twitter.com/TheBlondeRN/status/1328378945172074499

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Post by therealdrag0 »

cltby wrote: post #438
munificent wrote: post #370

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> 3. Get a table indoors Keep in mind that restaurants are at significantly reduced capacity and those tables are now more widely spread apart. These guidelines mean you are much less likely to share airspace with strangers. Yes, it's not as safe as not going to a restaurant at all, but they are trying to balance mitigating risk while allowing some economic activity. It's a hard problem. The last time I drove through…

> if you aren't being 100% safe you're just doing pandemic theater Pandemic theater is a preference for the symbolic over the substantive. It's giving yourself a pass for risky behavior (bars, indoor dining) while sneering at others for actions that are far less impactful ("haha, dumb hicks don't wear masks at the gas station!"). The hicks aren't sick because they won't wear their masks. They are sick because they're…

Also Seattle had a huge number of people who can WFH, not everyone can.

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

jimkleiber wrote: post #420
randcraw wrote: post #411

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More precisely, the majority of the US Senate (republican) opposes another large COVID bill. In contrast, the majority of the US House (democrat) has proposed new bills at between $2-3 trillion. The GOP is currently under control of the current President. Until he leaves, they will not act independently. After January 20 (and after the Georgia Senator runoffs are over), republicans will fear Trump's wrath less. But w…

But why does the Republican majority oppose another large COVID bill? I guess I just haven't heard or understand their arguments for why they think giving more economic stimulus would be a bad thing. - Is it a moral one? "Giving money makes people lazy, people should work for their money." - Is it a financial one? "If we give more money, this country will go further into debt." - Loyalty/obedience to Trump? - Somethi…

They say that "it's a bunch of radical left-wing priorities disguised as a pandemic bill".

What they mean is that they really don't want to give money to states and local governments, because they believe it will be poorly spent. This is problematic because these governments can't borrow, so will need to cut services in the midst of a pandemic.

Additionally, the Republicans are pushing strongly for a liability shield for employers from Covid deaths/cases, which the Democrats don't like.

Additionally, a bunch of Republican senators have found debt-reduction Jesus again, in the midst of the pandemic (even the IMF, those bondholder-buring, water-privitising backstards have said that now is not the time to worry about debt).

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

Diederich wrote: post #201
DanBC wrote: post #173

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Masks are the thing you do if you cannot socially distance. We have good evidence for social distancing, we don't yet (for a variety of reasons) have good evidence for mask wearing. You point to South Korea, and then claim it's the masks. But there's a bunch of other stuff they're also doing (because of their experience with coronaviruses): earlier lockdown, harder lockdown, much better test trace and isolate program…

Thanks for this, I appreciate it. I'm aware of some of the details you mentioned. > harder lockdown So I did some more digging, and found this: https://thediplomat.com/2020/11/south-korea-faces-another-po... This broadly supports what you're saying. Their success has been due to many rigorous and (near?) universally adopted protocols, not just mask wearing.

Yeah, and they take all the camera data from CCTV and all the mobile phone data, as well as the contact tracing data (with QR codes to a central system) and use that for contact tracing.

They are trading off liberty for security, and it seems to be working out well for them.

I can only imagine how crazy the US would have gone if the government had tried to do any of this.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by therealdrag0 »

jdhn wrote: post #35

I feel like I've seen versions of this story pop up throughout the year, and it seems that others have too [0]. I guess I remain skeptical as to whether this actually happened until more proof can be provided. [0] https://twitter.com/annbauerwriter/status/132853834817300480...

Did you see the link to the nurse being interviewed?

https://mobile.twitter.com/theblondern/status/13283789451720...

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Post by irq11 »

dumbfoundded wrote: post #290
irq11 wrote: post #214

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Oregon’s cases are skyrocketing: https://covid-19.direct/state/OR Much of this is in Portland: https://covid-19.direct/county/OR/Multnomah

Cases are skyrocketing everywhere. While your statement is true, it's extremely misleading. Oregon is 47th place in terms of population adjusted total cases. In terms of number of absolute new cases, Oregon is 40th. Every state with fewer absolute new cases than Oregon is smaller with the exception of Lousiana. Oregon has done a fantastic job of handling Covid. (1) https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us…

It isn’t misleading in any way: the parent was talking about mask rules in Oregon, asserting that they make all the difference. Yet cases are going up, all over Oregon, and especially in the places with the most compliance.

The fact that cases are going up all over the northern hemisphere - in places both with mask rules and without - should tell you something very important about the effectiveness of those rules.

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