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South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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I'm in Seattle too. The local health guidelines suggest that it's safe to: 1. Put on a mask before going outside 2. Stroll to your local favorite restaurant 3. Get a table indoors 4. Remove the mask 5. Socialize Some rural citizens are skipping steps 1 and 4, but Science only confers protection from covid when all the steps are followed. This sort of pandemic theater is why cases are at an all-time high here. The 90%…

> 3. Get a table indoors Keep in mind that restaurants are at significantly reduced capacity and those tables are now more widely spread apart. These guidelines mean you are much less likely to share airspace with strangers. Yes, it's not as safe as not going to a restaurant at all, but they are trying to balance mitigating risk while allowing some economic activity. It's a hard problem. The last time I drove through…

This is no longer allowed as of yesterday btw. The data caught up

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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I don't know stuff has been pretty apocalyptic the past 9 months. In San Jose a normally busy clean commercial street was boarded up on every store front with graffiti on most boards(BLM riots/protests). Trash was everywhere. Everyone was wearing masks. In NYC in April mobile morgue trucks flooded the city as the dead exceeded the capacity of the city's morgues. Drive by some parking lots and see hundreds of cars wai…

This probably somewhat explains why people in rural and suburban areas are quick to dismiss it as a hoax. None of what you seen is present outside of coastal American cities. I vacationed in rural Wisconsin this summer. Felt like every other summer I spent there. I think it was a mistake to lockdown many states in March that didn't really have a large number of infections. They spent 2-3 months lockdown for a virus t…

Maybe a mistake in hindsight, but part of the point was the we simply didn't know which parts of the country did and didn't have a large number of infections and couldn't afford to have several more New Yorks.

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> In the more advanced countries, such as Thailand, this is automated. Having facial recognition everywhere isn't necessarily considered "advanced" in all circles. Technically, perhaps. Ethically? Not so much. Facial recognition could be put everywhere in the US. Its primarily the political, legal, and social culture that prevents it, not the access to sufficient technology.

Facial recognition everywhere is a horrifying thought.

perhaps it will incentivizes mask wearing to get around the facial recognize and tracking and help with covid as a side effect

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Why do you think they're good and smart, why do they think Covid19 is a hoax? Surely a good person would try to do the safe thing even if they had doubts.

I worked with a guy named Danny many years ago. He was one of the smartest programmers I'd ever met. Not only did he write great code, but he also always maintained an excellent connection to the his customers who would use the programs he wrote. This was in a hospital. Personally, he was kind, generous, excellent family man. He never really talked too much about politics, didn't care too much for it. He also helped…

Thanks for the answer mate. I now understand what you mean. I guess we need to just reach out to people more and see if slowly we can cure them out of their thought cancers and they can cure us of ours. Different perspectives make all bugs shallow. I very much like this & thank you for giving me a new way of thinking about something today!

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A counter point to consider - and one that I consider to be a little more rational - is that - what if in the messaging to get people to wear masks - we have inadvertantly encouraged riskier behavior? As an analogy, I'd explain it like this. What if in the process to encourage people to wear seatbelts, drivers who did that then felt entitled to drive even faster thus resulting in even worse accidents and more frequen…

Everyone wears masks in NYC and there was no COVID uptick until the last month or so. even if it encourages risky behavior, there's no evidence that it does it enough to translate to higher spread overall, which is what matters. As long as the net impact doesn't increase transmission, they're not a problem.

"Everyone" wears masks in NYC? I don't know where exactly you're talking about but that's definitely not true. Certain neighborhoods are better than others but even so there are tons who don't.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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My wife and I just moved from Orange County, CA to Detroit, MI this last August. We decided to drive the northern route. Heading through Vegas, Utah, Yellowstone and Montana. Then onward through the plains of North Dakota and Minnesota. Turning north we entered Wisconsin and finally the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan. After a few days exploring we turned south to Detroit. In Vegas the concern for masks started to w…

It's actually the state governments that's at fault here. Not the specifically the people. Let me tell you I was in back-country Oregon recently, some of the MOST republican places within Oregon, not going to name drop the county. Anyway, the Oregon state government is very much democratic (cause you know Portland). But because of that, even the republican counties are under a mask order. And the extremely red counti…

You understand that state governments are made up of people from the state right?

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> not trying to match to people in a database Are you sure it’s not building one?

What is it going to record? "Dude with a mask" ?

“Dude who ignored a mask mandate from the government”

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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My wife and I just moved from Orange County, CA to Detroit, MI this last August. We decided to drive the northern route. Heading through Vegas, Utah, Yellowstone and Montana. Then onward through the plains of North Dakota and Minnesota. Turning north we entered Wisconsin and finally the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan. After a few days exploring we turned south to Detroit. In Vegas the concern for masks started to w…

When are we going to stop playing the blame game in regards to COVID? When it's cases in middle America surging, observers are "not surprised". How can this comment be taken as anything but scorn and disdain for rural Americans? It's repugnant. Where was this same sentiment when places like NYC were getting swamped with Covid? Anyone? I'm so damn tired of this holier-than-thou approach to COVID, and life in general.…

I'm not American and I don't live in USA. But when a communication center with high density of population is infected at the beginning of a new epidemic it's quite logical this happening. When the pandemic expand to low density areas 6/7 months later when we know a lot of ways to reduce the contaminations, it's not normal this is hapenning.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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My wife and I just moved from Orange County, CA to Detroit, MI this last August. We decided to drive the northern route. Heading through Vegas, Utah, Yellowstone and Montana. Then onward through the plains of North Dakota and Minnesota. Turning north we entered Wisconsin and finally the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan. After a few days exploring we turned south to Detroit. In Vegas the concern for masks started to w…

When are we going to stop playing the blame game in regards to COVID? When it's cases in middle America surging, observers are "not surprised". How can this comment be taken as anything but scorn and disdain for rural Americans? It's repugnant. Where was this same sentiment when places like NYC were getting swamped with Covid? Anyone? I'm so damn tired of this holier-than-thou approach to COVID, and life in general.…

The sentiment was everywhere. Rural and suburban areas thinking that NYC deserved it and that it just couldn't happen where they were. And then they refused the fruits of the lessons learned in New York because it just couldn't happen where they were.
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