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South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Basically the US’s complete disregard for public education is now coming to a head. I remember one study that said the US students were one of the lowest in terms of education but the absolute highest in terms of self confidence. We are reaping what we have sowed for decades now. We have such a vast uneducated population that this coronavirus is almost more like a horrifying culling of the uneducated than anything el…

In a lot of the same states that can't figure out how a respiratory virus comes in and out of your face, the general population and especially the elected officials and religious leaders are unsure of the circumstances under which a human female becomes pregnant. Not surprisingly, these states are also the national capitals of teenage pregnancy. Basic knowledge of biology would maybe clean these places up a bit.

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What a bad take. Disregard for covid precautions is the reason we have an outsized outbreak in the US. The outbreak in SD, despite the state’s low population density, will spread to other states.

The outbreak in the US is not particularly "outsized" compared to other developed countries: https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=usa&areas=fra&are...

Look at Australia and New Zealand. Both free and open societies with high per capita GDP. They both have achieved zero community transmission through stringent travel restrictions and a nationwide strategy. It’s disgraceful that we can’t do the same or better in the US.

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Basically the US’s complete disregard for public education is now coming to a head. I remember one study that said the US students were one of the lowest in terms of education but the absolute highest in terms of self confidence. We are reaping what we have sowed for decades now. We have such a vast uneducated population that this coronavirus is almost more like a horrifying culling of the uneducated than anything el…

>It’s such a basic concept that a child would have the solution, and you need to do mental gymnastics to convince yourself otherwise.

Mental gymnastics are precisely what's happening. When confronted with an uncontrollable horror, people generally have one of two possible reactions. The first is to accept it, and do what you can logically to minimize the risk, but to then live in perpetual fear and anxiety. The second is to begin rationalizing the problem itself away, as a defense mechanism to the anxiety and fear, and flocking to others who have made the same choice to mutually affirm each other and make themselves feel better.

I don't really think there's a correlation between general intelligence and which one of those two people gravitate towards. It's an emotional response that has a lot more to do with personality types. You see it in everything, not just with COVID. It's the same divide that exists between religious/non-religious.

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Yes, the pandemic fatigue is real. Yes, it would be wonderful to hang out with my friends in person, or to drive 100 miles crossing the border to go visit my children. But the reason this is lasting so long, and things are shutting back down is because people are ignoring the truth. You can talk about the economy all day long, but the fact of the matter is that if we all would’ve taken this seriously and shut everyth…

Americans refusal to embrace reality has little to do with Russia or any other foreign power. Instead, it’s derived from the long standing and pervasive belief in its exceptionalist, irrational ideology. The same belief system that allows one to compartmentalize the experience of a broken, unequal, and vicious society with an unblinking belief in its greatness will produce this and many other dissonances.

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>there is literal mass delusion out there far left and far right. What delusion is the "far left" believing in, in your opinion?

That everyone who voted for Trump is a white supremacist. I've seen that attitude quite a bit on this site in the days after the election, and I've seen journalists call minorities white supremacists because they didn't vote for Biden. Some people just refuse to believe that he's anything but a wannabe Hitler, and use that as an excuse to say that they have no reason to try and come together as a country.

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Are there still people who believe it is just "a few eccentrics"? As someone who has a lot of them in my direct family, extended family, and even Facebook friends, my perception is that partisanship has reached a point where there is literal mass delusion out there far left and far right. And in the case of covid19, it feels like at least 10% don't fully believe in it (the level of doubt varying by individual and sit…

>there is literal mass delusion out there far left and far right. What delusion is the "far left" believing in, in your opinion?

I believe it’s a platitude of “fair centrism”, not for its concrete weight but it’s symbolism in addressing “both sides”. Veracity and sincerity come to question, when I see this.

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Is her first-hand reporting that patients don't believe in COVID an unsubstantiated rumour?

It's either unsubstantiated or a HIPAA violation

Sorry rriepe, people didn't get your joke.

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My wife and I just moved from Orange County, CA to Detroit, MI this last August. We decided to drive the northern route. Heading through Vegas, Utah, Yellowstone and Montana. Then onward through the plains of North Dakota and Minnesota. Turning north we entered Wisconsin and finally the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan. After a few days exploring we turned south to Detroit. In Vegas the concern for masks started to w…

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This feels like it's just to shame everyone based on very few eccentrics. I'm sure most people in SD agree COVID is real, but it's also not a very densely populated state with small cities, and the governors response seems appropriate. It's keep the economy from totally collapsing. I drove to Sioux Falls a few weeks ago, just to be some place normal. It was nice just being able to go into a brew pub or an indoor rest…

> I drove to Sioux Falls a few weeks ago, just to be some place normal. It was nice just being able to go into a brew pub or an indoor restaurant, and talk to people. Too bad it was only for a few days. Frivolous travel for the express purpose of not social distancing during the throes of a pandemic... smh, what a prick.

I agree with him.

I wear a KN-95 mask everywhere I go. I don’t mind it at all.

I’d really prefer to live somewhere that lets you go to a bar or eat inside a restaurant.

I’d love to go to the barber shop and have my beard shaped up.

Maybe I’ll go to Sioux Falls :)

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