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South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Basically the US’s complete disregard for public education is now coming to a head. I remember one study that said the US students were one of the lowest in terms of education but the absolute highest in terms of self confidence. We are reaping what we have sowed for decades now. We have such a vast uneducated population that this coronavirus is almost more like a horrifying culling of the uneducated than anything else. The utter confidence in these patients to not believe the doctors is staggering but not surprising.

I hate to be so blunt, but 50% of the population has IQ below 100. Nothing to me has demonstrated this more than the reaction to the pandemic. When you are so uneducated that you think a mask won’t help prevent a disease that is spread via respiratory droplets, that is a big problem and unfortunately those people are all sitting ducks. Of course many won’t believe the doctors when they don’t have the capacity to understand even the basic concept?

If you were to ask a child what might be a good way to help prevent a disease that originated from their mouth, I’m pretty sure one of their top two answers would be a mask. It’s such a basic concept that a child would have the solution, and you need to do mental gymnastics to convince yourself otherwise.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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This feels like it's just to shame everyone based on very few eccentrics. I'm sure most people in SD agree COVID is real, but it's also not a very densely populated state with small cities, and the governors response seems appropriate. It's keep the economy from totally collapsing. I drove to Sioux Falls a few weeks ago, just to be some place normal. It was nice just being able to go into a brew pub or an indoor rest…

What a bad take. Disregard for covid precautions is the reason we have an outsized outbreak in the US. The outbreak in SD, despite the state’s low population density, will spread to other states.

The outbreak in the US is not particularly "outsized" compared to other developed countries: https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=usa&areas=fra&are...

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there still people who believe it is just "a few eccentrics"? As someone who has a lot of them in my direct family, extended family, and even Facebook friends, my perception is that partisanship has reached a point where there is literal mass delusion out there far left and far right. And in the case of covid19, it feels like at least 10% don't fully believe in it (the level of doubt varying by individual and sit…

>there is literal mass delusion out there far left and far right. What delusion is the "far left" believing in, in your opinion?

People like to look equidistant, so they will blame all extremes the same out of reflex.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there still people who believe it is just "a few eccentrics"? As someone who has a lot of them in my direct family, extended family, and even Facebook friends, my perception is that partisanship has reached a point where there is literal mass delusion out there far left and far right. And in the case of covid19, it feels like at least 10% don't fully believe in it (the level of doubt varying by individual and sit…

>there is literal mass delusion out there far left and far right. What delusion is the "far left" believing in, in your opinion?

That everyone who voted for Trump is a white supremacist. I've seen that attitude quite a bit on this site in the days after the election, and I've seen journalists call minorities white supremacists because they didn't vote for Biden. Some people just refuse to believe that he's anything but a wannabe Hitler, and use that as an excuse to say that they have no reason to try and come together as a country.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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I feel like I've seen versions of this story pop up throughout the year, and it seems that others have too [0]. I guess I remain skeptical as to whether this actually happened until more proof can be provided.

[0] https://twitter.com/annbauerwriter/status/132853834817300480...

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's either unsubstantiated or a HIPAA violation

Hey look, another person who doesn't know what HIPAA actually is/does...

Stop making up groups of people to hate. Stick to the argument or don't comment.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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My friend works in the covid ICU here in Michigan and told me yesterday that she's seeing a dramatic increase in patients who are getting angry at her and still believing that covid is not real. When she asks where they may have caught it, they sometimes say at a wedding with 100 people where no one was wearing masks. I can't imagine how emotionally taxing it was to be a healthcare worker attending to people with cov…

I work on the mobile contact tracing effort (FAANG), and I am exhausted thinking about it as well, and I don't even risk my life everyday.

Part of me wants to say, "fuck these idiots that don't wear masks, just die," but know that they will just get others sick on the way, and use up scarce resources.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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This feels like it's just to shame everyone based on very few eccentrics. I'm sure most people in SD agree COVID is real, but it's also not a very densely populated state with small cities, and the governors response seems appropriate. It's keep the economy from totally collapsing. I drove to Sioux Falls a few weeks ago, just to be some place normal. It was nice just being able to go into a brew pub or an indoor rest…

What a bad take. Disregard for covid precautions is the reason we have an outsized outbreak in the US. The outbreak in SD, despite the state’s low population density, will spread to other states.

PZ Myers, a prof at Morris, MN, has expressed concern about exactly that in his blog.

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2020/11/15/living-ne...

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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My wife and I just moved from Orange County, CA to Detroit, MI this last August. We decided to drive the northern route. Heading through Vegas, Utah, Yellowstone and Montana. Then onward through the plains of North Dakota and Minnesota. Turning north we entered Wisconsin and finally the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan. After a few days exploring we turned south to Detroit. In Vegas the concern for masks started to w…

It depends quite a bit on where you are in any particular state. We did a similar move in May and I found that rural gas stations had close to zero mask usage, but in any larger city people were wearing masks. Some tourist hotspots (e.g. Moab) also have good mask compliance, perhaps because local businesses are desperate to avoid a full shutdown.

FWIW, I live in Utah, and in my urban neighborhood I actually see very good mask compliance. Further into the suburbs adherence drops.

Re: South Dakota nurse says many dying patients still insist Covid-19 'not real'

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My wife and I just moved from Orange County, CA to Detroit, MI this last August. We decided to drive the northern route. Heading through Vegas, Utah, Yellowstone and Montana. Then onward through the plains of North Dakota and Minnesota. Turning north we entered Wisconsin and finally the UP (Upper Peninsula) of Michigan. After a few days exploring we turned south to Detroit. In Vegas the concern for masks started to w…

If you'd like to see an absolutely terrifying map go to:

https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/

and scroll down to the "Can Our Health System Handle the Spread?" and look at the concentric rings of new infections/million radiating out of North and South Dakota.

This lines up very well with the parent comment's observations.

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