“Our estimates imply that nationally implementing mandatory face masks for employees in public businesses on March 14th would have reduced the growth rate of cases and that of deaths by approximately 10 percentage points in late April. [...] We estimate that business shutdowns have roughly the same impact on growth rates as mask mandates, albeit with more uncertainty.” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pi…
If someone drops a match in a dry field and a fire starts, and then I stand posturing saying "Don't worry, I've got this, the fire is under control", while trying to not be noticed as I stamp little patches of it with my feet, and as the fire grows I say "I've got it, it's diminishing" while still not doing the utmost, would you call me a fucking idiot for causing the fire to spread?
Covid Took My Grandfather. But It Wasn’t What Killed Him
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#42> With more than 230,000 Americans dead from a virus that could have been contained It could not have been "contained" in the United States. Half the (ineffectual) stuff we do now is unconstitutional. You cannot restrict religious or other forms of peaceable assembly under our constitution. We've observed quite a bit of that in the past few months. Moreover, 230K is 1/10th the projected number of deaths (2.2M). The "…
This part of the US perspective on covid-19 I don't understand. Everywhere I keep reading comments that suggest you pretty much deserved what you got and americans only have themselves to blame because 'if everyone just wore masks' it 'could have been contained'. Literally nothing suggests that, no other country in the world shows any statistics to back this up, and the situation is pretty much as bad as or worse in…
You have a dismissive attitude towards all measures taken by asian countries with very good (at least compared to willfully negligent countries) COVID-19 responses. This entire post obliquely critiques other people for not thinking clearly (or even god forbid "rationally"), but it is ironically very clear you have an extremely tenuous grasp of the reality of the situation yourself.
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#43Life expectancy + 10 years, not sure what the story is here. People don't live infinitely.
Wait till you are in an age like that and some dork thoughtlessly shrugs, pushing you over tve cliff...
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#44Nice article ... about the US medical system in general, though. Not about Covid. Always wondered what happens over there if you get Covid but have no insurance. Insta die?
If you're unlucky enough to have to go to the hospital, you won't die per se...
But, you might lose: your savings, your house, fall behind on bills. If you're lucky, you will burden your family for money, otherwise, you might live in a shelter for a while. Also, if you're very lucky, you might get some medical bills "forgiven" if you meet certain criteria (young enough, in school, has children, etc.)
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#45Some of the sociopaths in the comment section (on the article, not here) are truly mind-blowing. It is scary to be confronted with the fact that not only are those people out there, but they are likely more numerous than you think.
That doesn't really detract from your point on antisocial personalities, sadly. Trolls are also bad people. Perhaps they will be less surprising to you.
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#46What does this story tell us? Nothing. No matter how good the government is, there would be definitely be one preventable death. Also looking at her previous posts, this is like she found the perfect story, or it isn't unlikely she is making up the details. This story wasn't related to Trump at all and yet reporter mentions trump 16 times by name and many more by pronoun. I hope HN stops upvoting clickbait stories li…
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#47Do we want to live in a society where
...every person driving a vehicle shares the blame for creating an environment where pedestrians get hit and killed?
...every person who refuses to wear a mask around people shares the blame for people dying from the flu?
...every person who engages in casual sex shares the blame for spreading deadly STIs like HIV?
...every person who might contribute to the depression of a child shares the blame for suicide?
COVID is a natural disaster, just like an earthquake or a hurricane. Lashing out at your political opponents helps no one, and no, it's not Trump's fault or his supporters' fault your family member died.
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#48I was complaining in guild chat about I'm sick of people who don't wear masks on public transport. And the silly person claims that you have the right to not wear a mask. I'm thinking, "you dumb b.... you have the right to infect other people potentially killing them?" Then 3 people "stood up" saying that masks aren't effective.
YES MASKS ARE FUCKING EFFECTIVE - WEAR THEM! ffs
It doesn't matter if they filter 100% or 75% if everyone on the bus/train/etc wears a mask the risk is a lot lower to get infected than if no one wears a mask.
Then the silly person said that the virus is a lot smaller than what a mask can filter... always the same lies. Well how the fuck is that virus transported?
I hate when people are uneducated and stupid and refuse to learn and think they know it all. Usually you can ignore those but in public transport you have to deal with them EVERY FUCKING DAY. And fight with them to wear a mask. Especially teens act like you don't exist when you tell them to wear the fucking mask. Some people are friendly and say thanks, some don't have money to afford masks and I give them one of mine.
She also claimed "you know when you're infected" NO you fucking DON'T know when you're infected. That's the whole fucking point of this pandemic and the lockdowns (you stupid c...).
Governments should distribute masks for free. And not just the nurse masks but FFP2 or better. What are we paying up to 70% of our income for (in most EU countries)? In Germany as a single, un-married person about 50% is robbed from you by the state, so you earn let's say 5k/m 2.5k is stolen by the state and on the rest you even have to pay VAT of 19%. And they don't want to produce or distribute masks to people? Instead they gave you up to 9k one time if you were self-employed or an entrepreneur and ONLY if you spend that money on your expenses.
And now they want to do away with encryption after they already effectively criminalized hosting companies with Article 17 (ex Article 13).
You ask me why I'm mad? Because the corruption in the EU and worldwide, because 99% own 1% of all money and some people barely have enough to eat while the bureaucrats throw away OUR MONEY with 10k-15k€/m wages and ridiculous expenses like moving from Brussels to Strasbourg and back each month costing 180m€. But they can't afford to supply the population with masks? Why am I mad? Because the heap of shit that stinks to heaven. And don't get me started on climate change. So a few assholes have bigger numbers on their accounts with money they can never spend in their whole life we're killing our base, polluting us and our environment.
Society is sick and corrupt.
China, an autocratic regime has eliminated COVID19. Of all governments, China. While Mr. Orange Dickfarts refuses to leave his seat in the US and claims "there is no virus the election was a lie". WTF
WTF?!?
A few days ago I read we've passed the point of no return, irreversible damages to the climate have happened and we can't do anything about it anymore. No matter what we do we're fucked. We knew it 30 years ago and nothing was done and we know it now and nothing is being done. Are you calling a few windmills something? Are you saying E-Cars will change that?
Time to learn Chinese, if only it wasn't so damn complicated to learn
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#49“Our estimates imply that nationally implementing mandatory face masks for employees in public businesses on March 14th would have reduced the growth rate of cases and that of deaths by approximately 10 percentage points in late April. [...] We estimate that business shutdowns have roughly the same impact on growth rates as mask mandates, albeit with more uncertainty.” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pi…
Why are people not wearing masks despite it being effective? Yeah, you can blame those people. They are incredibly irresponsible. Masks are obviously not the only measure that should be used.
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#50Yes, she's right that her grandfather was 'sacrificed' for political gain. By her. I understand she is grieving but this is a confused mess trying to find something to blame. Trump. Voters. Capitalism. Whatever might make her feel like her loved one's death wasn't entirely in vain. Whatever might stick. Whatever she wants an excuse to be more angry about. She needs polite condolences and time. She doesn't need people…
All those things are to blame, though.