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Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Post by aaron695 »

romanoderoma wrote: post #14

I'm Italian and have been having breakfast with caffellatte (milk and coffee) for all of my life, but am probably lactose intolerant on some degree. I just can't get the day started without the smell of breakfast. It all depends on what time you wake up, I wake up very late when I'm not working and have breakfast even if it's 2pm. No way I'm skipping it, if I'm out of latte, I go to a bar and have a cappuccino (milk…

> @moderators ok this is getting a bit ridiculous. Few minutes in and the usual downvote arrives.

Theory -

HN has changed their algorithm (I think they always are) and bots are interacting with it causing this.

I'd guess HN pushes you down if your last comment was downvoted.

And the bots who need to seem normal assume you've been downvoted so also downvote.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Post by izietto »

ardit33 wrote: post #63

I don't think this is quiet correct. I am Albanian, and we drink coffee all the time, even in the evening. Even in coastal towns in the south (which is next to greece and south italy). We also use lots of butter/cheese and produce/use lots of Olive Oil as well. Growing up as kids, bread and olive oil, was a common breakfast/snack. We just don't have any rules on can't have coffee after a meal. The main reason some pl…

Italian here. We don't usually have cappuccino after 12pm because cappuccino is a breakfast meal. We do have coffee after 12pm tho. For Italian people, cappuccino toghether with lunch / dinner is a taboo, it's like broccoli ice cream we can say :)

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Post by znpy »

switch007 wrote: post #34
romanoderoma wrote: post #14

I'm Italian and have been having breakfast with caffellatte (milk and coffee) for all of my life, but am probably lactose intolerant on some degree. I just can't get the day started without the smell of breakfast. It all depends on what time you wake up, I wake up very late when I'm not working and have breakfast even if it's 2pm. No way I'm skipping it, if I'm out of latte, I go to a bar and have a cappuccino (milk…

> I just can't get the day started without the smell of breakfast. > a cappuccino without cornetto it's almost not worth it. > you can ask for a cappuccino whenever you want in Italy, the only exception is... > grandma is not gonna be happy that you are not eating your 30th fettina panata This is all so beautifully Italian I love it! <3

It's also 100% true.

> a cappuccino without cornetto it's almost not worth it.

This in particular, it's 200% true.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Post by anuila »

yardie wrote: post #16
FanaHOVA wrote: post #2

I'm Italian (now in the US), and I had some friends come visit in Italy a while ago, and went out to lunch with some of my family. One of my friends ordered a cappuccino mid-lunch and my family almost passed out :)

I spent some time in Sicily and one of the things I discovered was I could not get pizza for lunch,only dinner. I thought it was just one restaurant being obstinate but town after it was the same response. And to this American who enjoyed a slice between classes I could not understand why. I concluded it was too hot and no one wanted to turn up the pizza oven. Is that correct assumption?

Restaurant owner in Italy here: We usually don’t offer pizza at lunchtime because it takes time and wood to fire up the oven and keep it at temperature. Low request volume means it’s not worth it, at least for small pizza places.

If you want pizza for lunch you head to a bakery or “bar” and they have squares (not “slices”) ready for you to pick up.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Post by hombre_fatal »

echelon wrote: post #73
reaperducer wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those of us who can't watch videos at work for various reasons, I wish every HN submission marked [Video] had a summary. Thank you.

Where do you work that you can't watch a video? What's the reason? Genuinely curious, not insulting/snarky.

I'd feel silly casually watching fun Youtube videos at any office job where anybody could see my screen. So, most jobs I've had until I worked remotely.

Browsing websites like HN is one thing. Youtube is over the top, like turning on Netflix. "Oh look, Chuck is watching Youtube again."

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Post by taneq »

Skunkleton wrote: post #74
flazzarino wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The causation in your summary was not established in the video, only claimed with some correlations to other phenomena. Some non-snarky comments provided some really good counter examples, eg they eat ice cream all afternoon. Also from my own experience in the south: every morning kids eat a bowl of milk with a shot of espresso over cereal.

....why have I never thought to put espresso in my cereal?

It makes it go soggy really fast but it’s good for a laugh.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Post by jrussino »

"Milk does not keep for very long in a warm environment" (3:39) This was the explanation I was given, and it seems simpler to me: the addition of milk to coffee predates widespread refrigeration. Cows are milked in the morning, and fresh (unprocessed) milk will only be good for a few hours. Thus people only put milk in their coffee in the morning. This eventually becomes customary, and the custom is retained even after its original justification is removed (as with countless other culinary customs).

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Post by bigger_cheese »

hvdfhbj wrote: post #58
paganel wrote: post #51

Italians have indeed the best espressos/ristrettos that I've ever had the pleasure of drinking, but other than that the origin coffee culture is pretty much non-existing in Northern Italy (I've never been to the South). Comparatively speaking Milano is a desert when it comes to origin coffee shops, and the same goes for their hip neighbours across the Alps, i.e. Paris. From my direct experience European cities furthe…

As an Australian I've had a terrible time finding a decent cup of coffee in Europe (Italy excepted, but even then the standards aren't great). I admit I haven't been to Budapest or Bratislava but I've been to some of the supposedly-best places in Berlin and been pretty disappointed. A shocking fraction of them use UHT milk.

I travelled through Europe 2018, mainly spent my time in Italy, Greece and Malta. Also spent some time in Prague and Budapest.

I personally really enjoyed Greek style Coffee but I guess not for everybody. I'm hardly what you would call a coffee snob here in Australia though.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Post by llampx »

subsubzero wrote: post #76
brainlessdev wrote: post #10

It's a good video, full of information. Ignore the snarky comment(s). Summarizing: - Italians in the North are less prone to lactose malabsorption than those in the South - They don't drink cappuccinos after 11 because it's heavy to digest - The video includes some information about why milk is hard to digest, and other things

I don't know, I liked the video but am uncertain of his hypothesis. If it was due to lactose intolerance wouldn't all the cheeses and pizza's enjoyed around dinner in Italy cause some major issues for many people? Also gelato? My guess is its due to caffeine and avoiding any ingestion of it for a long time before bed is a smart move.

> My guess is its due to caffeine and avoiding any ingestion of it for a long time before bed is a smart move.

Don't look now, but the Italians love their espresso after dinner.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Post by jsinai »

subsubzero wrote: post #76
brainlessdev wrote: post #10

It's a good video, full of information. Ignore the snarky comment(s). Summarizing: - Italians in the North are less prone to lactose malabsorption than those in the South - They don't drink cappuccinos after 11 because it's heavy to digest - The video includes some information about why milk is hard to digest, and other things

I don't know, I liked the video but am uncertain of his hypothesis. If it was due to lactose intolerance wouldn't all the cheeses and pizza's enjoyed around dinner in Italy cause some major issues for many people? Also gelato? My guess is its due to caffeine and avoiding any ingestion of it for a long time before bed is a smart move.

I’m lactose intolerant and have no issue with cheese and gelato in Italy. Most Italian cheeses have little to no lactose. Not sure what the case is with gelato but it doesn’t seem to have an effect on me (this is anecdotal). Also pizza in Italy does not have as much cheese as in other parts of the world.
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