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Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by in3d »

alkonaut wrote: post #130
ThePreacherMan wrote: post #53

Are there any good information how advertising works in this network? From my experience its easy to convince "free-speechers" to buy things - think gold investment, self defense equipment, prepping, everything with the US flag colours on it.

Parler isn’t a tech startup like any other. It’s unlikely to ever be profitable. Why Mercer and others think it’s a good idea to plow money into it is the question.

Twitter is ridiculously overstaffed for what they are and it resulted in very few improvements over the years. I really wonder what most people there do. And yes, I’ve run popular apps so I’m not underestimating anything. If Parler can grab a percentage of this market and not unnecessarily overextend themselves, they’ll be just fine.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by JamesBarney »

p1necone wrote: post #21
rayiner wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Pretty much all of my leftist friends joined Parler to screw with MAGA folks, and every last one of them was banned in less than 24 hours because conservatives truly love free speech," one user recently wrote on Twitter. It sounds like they were banned for being antagonistic assholes, not for being liberals.

It doesn't matter what they were banned for, it's still hypocritical for a platform apparently based around "free speech" to ban people for speech they don't agree with.

I don't think it's hypocritical at all. The U.S. is based around free speech and we ban all of types speech for good reasons.

It obvious that "we want to allow someone to say anything they could say on twitter+(spout conspiracy theories and implicit/explicit racist shit)" is both freer than twitter, and not as free as previous+harass people.

I really don't think allowing right wing nuts to voice their opinion but not letting users harass each other makes a hypocrite?

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by blackrock »

grey-area wrote: post #110
ceilingcorner wrote: post #98

Big Tech and Big Media really overplayed their hand this time, IMO. Millions and millions of people are now skeptical and looking for an alternative, even from Fox News. It might not be to Parler, or to the next site after that, but fragmentation will continue to happen. Facebook and media at large only have power if they have viewers, which is a far less stable resource than iron, or oil, or other corporate mainstay…

2020, or more likely 2016 will perhaps be seen as a turning point in the fortunes of the US Republic, when the democracy began to unravel, the law was used as a weapon against enemies, and the rule of law was replaced by mob rule with different factions warring in the streets. The parallels between the US at this moment and pre-war Europe or Rome at the time of the Catiline conspiracy are striking - the centre cannot…

Why can’t the dissenting States just secede from the Union?

It is a democracy after all.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by watwut »

Veen wrote: post #168
joshuamorton wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is certainly a line of thinking. Of course the alternative is: 1. Tech platforms were too slow with limiting extremist viewpoints 2. Instead of keeping extremist views isolated, this allowed them to pick up more support. These groups continue to move more and more extreme, and more popular. 3. Delays in taking action to prevent the spread of these views allowed the combination of extremism and popular support th…

I agreed with you until the last paragraph, where it became clear that your problem isn’t with extreme views in general, just the sort of extreme views Trump is likely to endorse. That’s exactly the bias that people behind Parler aim to exploit (or provide an escape from, depending on your view)

Common, plenty of extreme left content and people were suppressed. It is just that each group complains primary about own suppression and never able suppression of other groups. And extreme left groups are also smaller.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by dustinmoris »

hooande wrote: post #179
dustinmoris wrote: post #118

In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

if twitter is so bad, why do you keep using it?

> if twitter is so bad, why do you keep using it?

Did you read what I said? I have stopped using Twitter. I don't tweet, I don't have the app, I don't engage in anything what happens there now.

I just occasionally peek in to see if I'm missing out on anything and surprisingly I don't. As a result I see myself (unconsciously) check Twitter less and less.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by Rick1 »

blackrock wrote: post #213
grey-area wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2020, or more likely 2016 will perhaps be seen as a turning point in the fortunes of the US Republic, when the democracy began to unravel, the law was used as a weapon against enemies, and the rule of law was replaced by mob rule with different factions warring in the streets. The parallels between the US at this moment and pre-war Europe or Rome at the time of the Catiline conspiracy are striking - the centre cannot…

Why can’t the dissenting States just secede from the Union? It is a democracy after all.

Well some have tried. There was a civil war about it.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by Rick1 »

least wrote: post #33

When "free speech" is the primary selling point of a social media website, it tends to only attract people who feel slighted by the platform they're migrating from. Unfortunately this has the opposite effect of Parler's stated goal of being "the world's town square" since it simply isn't attractive to people with opposing views of those who did move. I think free speech is important and I think that social media plat…

From what I've heard (I don't use Parler) one of their selling points it actually that they're quicker than Twitter as censoring.

Twitter allows (and promotes?) hate mobs while Parler supposedly doesn't.

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Post by watwut »

AntiImperialist wrote: post #183
ohgodplsno wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially considering that all of these failed not because they were infiltrated by "the left", but because they're now a haven for literal nazis.

Agent provocateurs are used to supress online communities just like they're used to supress physical protests. In fact, one can do much more damage to an online community, specially if it can have anonymous users.

I guess then, Twitter and such Mahe better job of keeping agent provocateur in check?

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Post by in3d »

bawolff wrote: post #142

Meh, so what. There's been tons of platforms in the past that rise up because of disagreements over moderation policy (voat anyone). Maybe they will succede maybe they won't. Not sure what the fuss is about.

Was voat one the top two most downloaded apps in the whole App Store for a week? That’s what the fuss is about.
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