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Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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No one wants to spend time on the Internet listening to a bunch of randos talking about how the Jews are secretly lizard people manipulating the elections except other such crackpots. These platforms are lightning rods. Let these people go there and convince each other of their fringe conspiracy theories. Freedom of association and all that. If they will stop polluting normal places with their crackpottery we're all…

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The citizens here in the US do not appear to be interested in “nuanced views” at the moment.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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No one wants to spend time on the Internet listening to a bunch of randos talking about how the Jews are secretly lizard people manipulating the elections except other such crackpots. These platforms are lightning rods. Let these people go there and convince each other of their fringe conspiracy theories. Freedom of association and all that. If they will stop polluting normal places with their crackpottery we're all…

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Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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> Also, it’s not like Clinton didn’t spend four years “disputing ... democracy.” See: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trum ... I don't believe Clinton ever attacked the integrity of the election process itself. She did claim (and as far as I'm aware the investigations more or less supported the claims) that the Trump campaign colluded with foreign governments to influence the election.

“Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances, because I think this is going to drag out” - Hillary Clinton Seems like Trump has taken her advice. At this point she really should just retire from politics and spend her hundreds of millions of dollars living the good life. She doesn’t do Democrats any favors.

So are you claiming that Clinton's suggestion that we wait until absentee ballots are included before letting someone claim victory is "disputing ... democracy", or are you trying to change the subject to something else?

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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> Presenting evidence in the court of law is democracy. If evidence is shit, the court will throw it out. This has happened in all the lawsuits so far, I believe?

> This has happened in all the lawsuits so far, I believe? You're being gaslit about that too, although yes, some motions were denied and some lawsuits were rejected outright. Watch the last link in my original post. It explains the propaganda barrage perfectly. There are a bunch of deadlines and appellate levels baked into this process for a reason. If Al Gore could hold things up for over a month over a few hundred…

No videos, give me some text reporting. Which lawsuits have (a) submitted evidence and (b) not had it thrown out?

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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No he didn't. This is what the article says, "On Saturday, CEO and co-founder John Matze said one of the privately-owned company's early investors is Rebekah Mercer" What's more, I've also read the Wall Street Journal article on the subject which made it even clearer. "Ms. Mercer, in a post on Parler after a version of this article was published, said that her father had no involvement or ownership of the company."

Here's the source post https://parler.com/post/6e474ef190344fdbab8557b3ebf85ade

She later posted: "My father, Robert Mercer, has neither involvement with, nor ownership of, Parler."

https://parler.com/post/90d032f4e22243fd82f7dd9a5b27208d

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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When Donald Trump launched his campaign he said; “ When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” How else is one to take this? He said some are good people…

Trump was referring to the Drug, Weapons, & Human trafficking that was occurring due to the border policy at the time. This illicit trafficking and violence against civilians & journalists is well documented in many sources.

That doesn't accurately describe Trump's comments. This wasn't some onetime only type of comment. Remember when he said a US judge couldn't rule on a case where Trump was losing, because the judge was of hispanic origin. That's another racist comment. Trump has continually made these types of comments, made references to shithole countries. You can't just dismiss that with a claim that he was saying something else, because his comments were part of a long standing sequence.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Relevant SSC article: https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/01/neutral-vs-conservativ... > The moral of the story is: if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. It will be a terrible place to live even if witch-hunts ar…

>It will be a terrible place to live even if witch-hunts are genuinely wrong.

It would probably be a terrible place to live physically, but not necessarily a terrible place to visit online. Places such as the ones SSC refers to are terrible places to visit for people who get deeply emotionally hurt when they see hateful discourse and for people who lack the skill of filtering low-value content in search of high-value content. However, both the skill of being unaffected by hateful discourse and the skill of rapidly finding high-value content in an ocean of low-value content can be learned. I think that learning those skills is worthwhile because in strongly free speech areas, one can often find high-value content that is difficult or impossible to find in thought-policed places.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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“Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances, because I think this is going to drag out” - Hillary Clinton Seems like Trump has taken her advice. At this point she really should just retire from politics and spend her hundreds of millions of dollars living the good life. She doesn’t do Democrats any favors.

So are you claiming that Clinton's suggestion that we wait until absentee ballots are included before letting someone claim victory is "disputing ... democracy", or are you trying to change the subject to something else?

Nobody is “disputing democracy” at this point. Bush vs Gore took an entire month to sort out.

Hillary said this might drag out for a while... and she was right, it is. That’s fine. We have a process for this; no need to be melodramatic.

Biden has almost assuredly won, but first there will be some court cases and recounts simply because it was extremely close. That’s a good thing for Democracy.

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