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Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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Why does Apple get the Professional OS nod when EVERY update is a break in your workflow Majorly. Heck every Mac is always on a different update because they are scared to even update in Mac only cooperate networks like mine. It has always been a pain in my video editing life too.

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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Maybe this is cruel, but in some ways I’m surprised modern hardware can be damaged over a modern bus? I wonder how it damages them.

The device that can be damaged is a DJ controller with haptic feedback. So it has motors in it, and some kind of audio outputs. If the audio levels get turned to maximum or the motors get sent invalid commands, it could cause the device to damage itself. I’d call it a firmware problem if the motors can be commanded to move too fast, but anyway it may be reason for them to warn their customers. The editorialized hacke…

Yeah, that is an issue of the device IMO. It should prevent itself from being run in a destructive manner so long as the bus itself is in spec (ie no overvoltage, reverse polarity, etc). Unless it is clearly labelled as not to be connected to any system that hasn't been specifically evaluated and qualified by them, this shouldn't be the customers fault.

Also, I initially misread this as National Instruments and imagined a DJ programming in LabView, LMAO.

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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Maybe this is cruel, but in some ways I’m surprised modern hardware can be damaged over a modern bus? I wonder how it damages them.

As I understand it the Kontrol S4 has moving parts (essentially motors) under USB control. Obviously you could design this sensibly so that no legal inputs result in malfunction let alone damage, but that might cost more, so, do it all in software right? And then you're at the mercy of the software and anything (such as the OS kernel) which that software depends on. We do teach Computer Science / Software Engineering…

Sounds like a nightmare, I guess SANE is an ironic name?

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post #3

Maybe this is cruel, but in some ways I’m surprised modern hardware can be damaged over a modern bus? I wonder how it damages them.

As I understand it the Kontrol S4 has moving parts (essentially motors) under USB control. Obviously you could design this sensibly so that no legal inputs result in malfunction let alone damage, but that might cost more, so, do it all in software right? And then you're at the mercy of the software and anything (such as the OS kernel) which that software depends on. We do teach Computer Science / Software Engineering…

> many HN regulars are proud that they either didn't pay any attention in class or never attended and are "self-taught".

It's because companies want "superstars" (ie: underpaid people with something to prove by spending a whole bunch of unpaid overtime in order to get $50k at the end of 2-3 years when the company is sold)

The truth is in the hardware game, you end up cutting corners in order to deliver something someone will buy because if you're a dollar pricier than the next guy noone will build your plastic AF product.

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Does Apple have a "Release to Manufacturing" phase in their release schedule before the product is GA? A time for all their software and hardware partners to fully vet their product against the gold master.

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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post #3

Maybe this is cruel, but in some ways I’m surprised modern hardware can be damaged over a modern bus? I wonder how it damages them.

As I understand it the Kontrol S4 has moving parts (essentially motors) under USB control. Obviously you could design this sensibly so that no legal inputs result in malfunction let alone damage, but that might cost more, so, do it all in software right? And then you're at the mercy of the software and anything (such as the OS kernel) which that software depends on. We do teach Computer Science / Software Engineering…

There are those of us who are "self-taught" who are familiar with Therac-25 and other incidents. Don't think that a college degree somehow magically infuses engineers with ethics and judgement.

That comes from a culture of engineering that focuses on learning and continuous improvement, otherwise we'd just be fixed in time the moment we left school.

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post #15

Does Apple have a "Release to Manufacturing" phase in their release schedule before the product is GA? A time for all their software and hardware partners to fully vet their product against the gold master.

Presumably the developer beta serves that purpose?

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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post #3

Maybe this is cruel, but in some ways I’m surprised modern hardware can be damaged over a modern bus? I wonder how it damages them.

As I understand it the Kontrol S4 has moving parts (essentially motors) under USB control. Obviously you could design this sensibly so that no legal inputs result in malfunction let alone damage, but that might cost more, so, do it all in software right? And then you're at the mercy of the software and anything (such as the OS kernel) which that software depends on. We do teach Computer Science / Software Engineering…

No hardware vendor would actually design that way. Pretty sure there are some driver ICs for those motors which take care of those spikes. Besides, controlling voltage limits via software is pretty expensive to do compared to just slapping a driver IC. The problem is most likely not the motors, but something else.

Re: macOS 11 (Big Sur) Compatibility News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I understand it the Kontrol S4 has moving parts (essentially motors) under USB control. Obviously you could design this sensibly so that no legal inputs result in malfunction let alone damage, but that might cost more, so, do it all in software right? And then you're at the mercy of the software and anything (such as the OS kernel) which that software depends on. We do teach Computer Science / Software Engineering…

There are those of us who are "self-taught" who are familiar with Therac-25 and other incidents. Don't think that a college degree somehow magically infuses engineers with ethics and judgement. That comes from a culture of engineering that focuses on learning and continuous improvement, otherwise we'd just be fixed in time the moment we left school.

I can't speak for other degrees, but mine didn't magically infuse me with ethics. It was the full credited modules solely dedicated to just ethics that aided in that department.
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