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Right. That's this year. What about the last 20 years of US elections?
In most elections, the election results are clear by the time I go to bed normally.
There last election wasn't particularly close and from my understanding the mathematics of someone other than Trudeau + Liberal party winning were pretty much set.
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Every person who downvoted you knows this too. They are being willfully ignorant because they are too smart not to notice at least in the slightest the difference in treatment.
I don't think it's true. Democrats still don't like the electoral college even when they win. The real margin in this election would be over 5 million instead of the hundred of thousands if the EC didn't exist. And in this case the Republican claims of misnformation and conspiracy have seemed so outlandish and baseless it's hard to take any of them seriously. Like videos of ballots being burned, that turned out to be…
"Or the baseless claim that Republican observers were not present for the counting of ballots in Michigan or Pennsylvania - they were." - It's not baseless, there's a video of the republicans being barred from watching the vote. Are you really that naïve as to not even question why one party would insist on counting the votes unilaterally in secret and are you that much of a simpleton to think that people wouldn't cheat for a hell of a lot less?
There's also that whole constitution thing that says election rules are set by the state legislature, not the Governor nor the Supreme Court. The will of the commonwealth never intended to need interpreting because it's the literal republic representation that this country is founded on. Democracies always fail when people learn they can vote themselves more money by going into unlimited debt until its no longer unlimited one day.
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Yup. But local, provincial and national elections are different events. Referendums are occasionally attached. Ballots are almost always one question for provincial and national.
And regardless, all elections are run by a non-partisan agency. Just like the health service, the police service, the fire service, and the garbage service.
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You’re actually linking to a Sean Hannity segment on YouTube as your source?
New York Post Article, hope this satisfies. https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/michigan-gop-claims-software-i...
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One of the main reasons it is taking so long is the volume of mail-in ballots is extremely high compared to prior elections. And on top of that, in several states, Republicans were adamant that vote tabulation not begin early to deal with this volume, with the entirely foreseeable result that counting took far longer than necessary.
But it still doesn’t answer the question - in Canada we count all the ballots the same day BY HAND. Why is this so hard in the US? The only thing that I can think of is that your elections staff are grossly under-allocated?
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One of the main reasons it is taking so long is the volume of mail-in ballots is extremely high compared to prior elections. And on top of that, in several states, Republicans were adamant that vote tabulation not begin early to deal with this volume, with the entirely foreseeable result that counting took far longer than necessary.
But it still doesn’t answer the question - in Canada we count all the ballots the same day BY HAND. Why is this so hard in the US? The only thing that I can think of is that your elections staff are grossly under-allocated?
It obviously takes far longer to count ballots by hand when you're dealing with a dozen races instead of one or two.
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> Mail-in ballots are secret ballots I’ve knocked on doors in New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Many registered Democrats (usually the wife) denied being Democrats when their partners were around. I thought this was an error in our data until I revisited the neighbourhood. Husband wasn’t home. Wife scolded us. He is an ardent Republican and wouldn’t appreciate how she votes. Mail-in ballots let voters verify their vote to…
Isn't the actual problem the abusive relationship and that pressure to vote a certain way a symptom? The solution isn't to ban mail in ballots for those that want to vote that way, but to offer assistance to empower people to get out of that situation. It's already illegal to take a picture of your ballot to address these kinds of abuses.
If a voting system requires zero abusive power dynamics to work, it’s a bad system.
Also, banning mail-in ballots isn’t the only solution. Early voting is an alternative to mailed ballots. Letting someone re-vote a mailed-in ballot at a poll site is a fix to the cited problem, though it introduces complexity.
Was there a reason CISA needed to release a statement? I haven't seen anything controversial in the news. As they say, if you have to say it... I have a few comments going back a couple of years predicting how electronic voting will cause civil unrest because it is so vulnerable to being discredited. Edward Snowden even recently tweeted a prof's video about the same thing. Everybody who had given the issue any seriou…
It's literally on every page of the news.
The Trump campaign is trying to discredit the results of the election by any means possible.
The issue of 'electronic voting' is only a concern were there to be an election among regular people, interested in determining the actual truth.
It's much worse when people in positions of power just make up the truth 'because they can'.
Whatever Trump says, evidence or not, maybe 20% of the US population will believe.
If he Tweets it, it's 'true'.
This is why we're really concerned about information propagation - now the vast majority of people will 'believe' what's on the news because it's the job of journos to determine the truth - we don't have time as individuals to hunt down every little irregularity. That's why integrity in the media system is really important.
Social Media has no institutional integrity whatsoever - and there's absolutely no amount of 'evidence' that will convince certain people against what their 'Dear Leader' said.
Any random person can start a meme, and that meme becomes 'truth'.
'The Stolen Election' meme is a populist ploy, not one based on any real evidence of systematic problems, it's a fabricated narrative.
'Both sides' are guilty of a lot of bad narrative-making but this one is particularly pernicious.
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But it still doesn’t answer the question - in Canada we count all the ballots the same day BY HAND. Why is this so hard in the US? The only thing that I can think of is that your elections staff are grossly under-allocated?
17 million votes don’t take as long to count as 175 million?
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Isn't the actual problem the abusive relationship and that pressure to vote a certain way a symptom? The solution isn't to ban mail in ballots for those that want to vote that way, but to offer assistance to empower people to get out of that situation. It's already illegal to take a picture of your ballot to address these kinds of abuses.
> Isn't the actual problem the abusive relationship and that pressure to vote a certain way a symptom? The solution isn't to ban no mail in ballots for those that want to vote that way, but to offer assistance to empower people to get out of that situation. If a voting system requires zero abusive power dynamics to work, it’s a bad system. Also, banning mail-in ballots isn’t the only solution. Early voting is an alte…