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Re: macOS Big Sur

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Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

I’ve always used safari. I have had no incentive to use another browser.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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post #284

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I was about to say, you just described browser history!

It's completely, totally and utterly different from browser history! If I visit HN, browse a bunch of comment threads, and find something I want to come back to later, that's 1 tab but 20 history entries. Same if I searched for something on Google and eventually found something I want to come back to later. Except that's 1 tab and 50 history entries. To recover that state via history is practically impossible. It's a…

I would propose that the issue is that browser history navigation is generally poorly designed, at least if you want to do something more sophisticated than hit “back” or search it as a set of URLs. It should be richer and store much more details about each entry.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Man I still haven't even left Mojave for Catalina. I don't think I'm gonna be changing OSs until I buy a second or third generation ARM Air that comes with whatever they're calling the 2022 Mac OS.

> whatever they're calling the 2022 Mac OS.

Next up has got to be "Bigger Sur", then "Biggest Sur" is up after, and then they'll finally be done.

Re: macOS Big Sur

#554

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

For me, not supporting uBlock Origin trumps every single advantage Safari may have.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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The OS is compiled as Universal 2.

Does this mean that after two years, Apple won't support Intel processors anymore? I just bought a 10-core iMac so really hoping that's not the case. My I'm misunderstanding.

*Maybe I'm misunderstanding

Re: macOS Big Sur

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post #355

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As a daily user of the safari devtools, I have to disagree I don‘t have much need for the Network tab, so maybe that’s why. They handle the basics very well for me, with a much better interface (IMHO) than chrome tools. I really wish they didn‘t skip the devtools part of WebExtensions so we could get the tools for React/Vue/Redux et al.

Genuinely curious: what are you developing that you don’t ever need the network tab?

I don‘t know, like, average SPA stuff, a lot of React.

I just considered what the network tab actually is and I have of course used it before, to work on the loading speed of sites, but haven‘t done that for a while. The only performance work I‘ve done recently is with react profiler.

I have never used it to inspect API requests, which I assume it can do? I‘m comfortable with Charles proxy, which is likely overkill.

My usage is maybe 45% elements, 45% console, 5 % source/debugger, 3% storage, 2% network. Somehow I dislike elements UI in chrome.

Now I‘m thinking that I may be missing out and should look at what it does and what chrome could give me.

Edit: after playing around with it for a few minutes: I have in fact been missing out and using Charles and Paw way too much when I could have done it way quicker in the browser. I hope I don't have to switch to chrome now.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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> - Actually decent dev tools (used to be terrible) As a daily user of Safari, I can't let you say that. The devtools suck. The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??), the elements tools suck, there are basically no extensions (React, Redux, etc.). They are just horrible. As much as I try to use only Safari, I still fallback on Firefox Dev when I need some real devtools. I use it for the…

Devtools on Safari have been a joke for 5 years now. Ever since they split from Chrome and went down the Xcode "fancy" route, I have not been able to accomplish anything debugging in that browser.

They never split from Chrome. Chrome forked WebKit into Blink because Apple's wasn't merging Google's patches

Re: macOS Big Sur

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post #159

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It is great, but: 1. Just lost a few hundred Tabs from last session. Not the first time this has happened to me on Safari. ( Firefox used to have this problem as well, they implemented multiple LastSession.json to combat the problem and it is basically a thing of the past. ) 2. Fav Icons meant they are no longer showing the Tab Description once you have a dozen tabs as they will shrink to Icons Size. So you either ha…

> Just lost a few hundred Tabs from last session This is horrifying! How do you get to have one hundred tabs, or worse, a few hundred ?

I have had similar hundreds of tabs before, though I try to keep to a few dozen nowadays. The source tends to be a cluster of tabs (say 10) associated to a single subject, full of articles and tools I am using related to it. Frankly an obvious solution is to have a "rough-assortment ephemeral bookmark-group" where I can shift-select say 7 tabs at once and keep them for later, with an easy deletion cycle at will. And it would be good for this method to keep track of my local data of the tabs (scroll position, typed entries, ect.). Bookmarks (in Firefox at least) suck for this in contrast to just working directly with tabs, since you need to bookmark each tab individually + name it + sort them, meanwhile the tabs are grouped together nicely alongside interest-groups I hold for them, and can scroll for what I want or type in the address-bar.
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