macOS Big Sur

Post by lilyball » Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 9:04 PM UTC

jkelleyrtp wrote: post #372

pkamb wrote: post #301

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You can still only open about 15 tabs, after which the Safari tab bar turns into a completely unusable horizontally-scrolling list. Chrome solved this a decade ago... just keep shrinking the tabs down to Favicon size or smaller. Safari just added Favicon images last year, and I don't even think they're visible by default. --- EDIT: Favicon-only compact tabs to have actually been changed/added in Safari 14 for Big Sur…

My current tab bar on 10.15.7 with Safari 14, you don't even need to upgrade to Big Sur. Cmd + hover lets you preview a page or close it. https://i.imgur.com/NS6Zjd6.png

Post by pier25 » Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 9:04 PM UTC

Post by usmannk » Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 9:05 PM UTC

lilyball wrote: post #379

thiht wrote: post #166

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> - Actually decent dev tools (used to be terrible) As a daily user of Safari, I can't let you say that. The devtools suck. The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??), the elements tools suck, there are basically no extensions (React, Redux, etc.). They are just horrible. As much as I try to use only Safari, I still fallback on Firefox Dev when I need some real devtools. I use it for the…

> The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??) Speaking as a non-web-dev who looks at web inspector once in a blue moon, this took me about 5 seconds. I looked at the Network tab, selected a resource, noticed the information in the detail pane had headers but not payload, and then right-clicked the resource and selected "Reveal in Sources Tab" which revealed the payload there.

Post by mmastrac » Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 9:05 PM UTC

thiht wrote: post #166

jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

> - Actually decent dev tools (used to be terrible) As a daily user of Safari, I can't let you say that. The devtools suck. The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??), the elements tools suck, there are basically no extensions (React, Redux, etc.). They are just horrible. As much as I try to use only Safari, I still fallback on Firefox Dev when I need some real devtools. I use it for the…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 9:05 PM UTC

alwillis wrote: post #395

wombat-man wrote: post #30

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that seems like more of an app level compromise. I'm guessing on the OS itself they don't include the unneeded binary data.

* I'm guessing on the OS itself they don't include the unneeded binary data.* The operating system can on both M1 and Intel Macs; therefore, the OS has binaries for both. Wouldn't be much of an operating system if the frameworks and APIs weren't available for applications regardless of which architecture they're running on.