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Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by shangxiao »

greedo wrote: post #346
pkulak wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. I eventually upgraded to a Linux distro and couldn't be happier. What finally did it for me was when I did an "ls" in a terminal after an upgrade, accidentally hit the wrong button when the OS asked for permission, and locked my terminal out of file system access. Mac OS is no longer any good for professional use, outside of media creation.

Any "professional" who can't spend two minutes googling how to reset this doesn't deserve the title.

"Professional use" just means to use in your profession, not that they are claiming to be an IT expert.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by jkelleyrtp »

pkamb wrote: post #301
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

You can still only open about 15 tabs, after which the Safari tab bar turns into a completely unusable horizontally-scrolling list. Chrome solved this a decade ago... just keep shrinking the tabs down to Favicon size or smaller. Safari just added Favicon images last year, and I don't even think they're visible by default. --- EDIT: Favicon-only compact tabs to have actually been changed/added in Safari 14 for Big Sur…

My current tab bar on 10.15.7 with Safari 14, you don't even need to upgrade to Big Sur. Cmd + hover lets you preview a page or close it.

https://i.imgur.com/NS6Zjd6.png

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by r00fus »

jdeibele wrote: post #67

The look and feel of Big Sur is like a breath of fresh air. It definitely feels related to iPadOS with the colors and buttons that seem destined for a touchscreen but as somebody who uses multiple Apple devices it was comforting rather than annoying. There are ongoing issues with Apple locking down potential security problems and this makes some people unhappy. Carbon Copy Cloner didn't work with creating a bootable…

> It definitely feels related to iPadOS with the colors and buttons that seem destined for a touchscreen

I wonder when a touchscreen mac will be ushered in by Apple. My kids always smudge up my laptop screen attempting to avoid the trackpad.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by theshrike79 »

tobr wrote: post #233
reaperducer wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people use tabs the same way others use bookmarks My wife does this on her phone. I find it maddening, and tell her to just bookmark her sites. But that's just not how her brain works. Fortunately, even between iOS updates, Safari remembers all of her old tabs.

Genuinely curious, why do you find it maddening? Is it just the feeling that it’s somehow messy? Wouldn’t bookmarking every page be a lot worse?

It’s like people who store EVERYTHING on their desktop in a huge unorganised pile.

Yes, it works.

It’s also maddening, like they’ve never even grasped the basic file operations.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by jacobolus »

thiht wrote: post #166
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

> - Actually decent dev tools (used to be terrible) As a daily user of Safari, I can't let you say that. The devtools suck. The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??), the elements tools suck, there are basically no extensions (React, Redux, etc.). They are just horrible. As much as I try to use only Safari, I still fallback on Firefox Dev when I need some real devtools. I use it for the…

> consistent rendering issues

This is because lazy/incompetent web developers make their sites in Chrome and don’t bother testing other browsers.

You could have said the same about any browser that wasn’t IE a decade ago.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by yannk »

gnachman wrote: post #347

I released iTerm2 version 3.4.0 this morning with Big Sur support. Please update because 3.3 has various issues with it.

Thank you for the hard work and love put into iTerm2.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by samatman »

jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

My beef with macOS Safari (I use it) is simply that they don't render tab switching on the touch bar as favicons.

I'm looking down on the touch bar, and it's an indecipherable blur of basically identical tiny renders of web pages. I've never once found it useful, and the tab view has favicons (finally), if the touch bar had them I would likely use touch bar switching fairly frequently.

To be fair, no other browser does this obvious thing, either. I don't understand it.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by gowld »

dntrkv wrote: post #265
enriquto wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just lost a few hundred Tabs from last session This is horrifying! How do you get to have one hundred tabs, or worse, a few hundred ?

People need to learn to let go and just close tabs. It's freeing. If you need the info again, typing some related words into the address bar will usually surface the results from your history. If it doesn't, no big deal. The benefits of not lugging around that baggage outweighs the potentially tiny productivity hit you take to look up the info again.

History has far too many pages to browse, and doesn't have full-test search.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by lilyball »

thiht wrote: post #166
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

> - Actually decent dev tools (used to be terrible) As a daily user of Safari, I can't let you say that. The devtools suck. The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??), the elements tools suck, there are basically no extensions (React, Redux, etc.). They are just horrible. As much as I try to use only Safari, I still fallback on Firefox Dev when I need some real devtools. I use it for the…

> The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??)

Speaking as a non-web-dev who looks at web inspector once in a blue moon, this took me about 5 seconds. I looked at the Network tab, selected a resource, noticed the information in the detail pane had headers but not payload, and then right-clicked the resource and selected "Reveal in Sources Tab" which revealed the payload there.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by SloopJon »

FullyFunctional wrote: post #342
egypturnash wrote: post #209

Man I still haven't even left Mojave for Catalina. I don't think I'm gonna be changing OSs until I buy a second or third generation ARM Air that comes with whatever they're calling the 2022 Mac OS.

32-bit apps. I have 32-bit apps where the developer is either gone or will not update, thus if I wish to keep using these I have to stay on Mojava. This applies to four Macs which will likely never move away from Mojava.

One of my round tuit projects is to set up a Snow Leopard VM to run PowerPC apps. with Rosetta, and a Mojave VM to run 32-bit Intel apps.
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