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Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by ogre_codes »

boogies wrote: post #28

> Safari … the world’s fastest browser I actually kind of like WebKit as an engine that so many small independent browsers can be based on, but to me this is an interesting example of just how grounded in reality this marketing copy is.

It's certainly the most battery efficient browser which suggests to me they are doing something right with performance.

A lot of this seems to involve how deep down browser specific behaviors the developer goes. I've seen a few pages that work better under Chrome than Safari. Even big Storybook sites seem to do better under Chrome.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by saagarjha »

therealmarv wrote: post #136
qz2 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1Blocker is a rip off. Wipr doesn't work properly. ABP lets a lot of ads through. There is nothing that approaches uBlock at all.

try Adguard. It's the best one for this Apple interface for adblocking.

…which requires an Electron app to constantly be running for it to really work. Not great.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by steve_musk »

amativos wrote: post #137
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

A few things that kept me from using Safari full time (instead of Chrome) last time I tried it: - On my 15" Macbook Pro (mid 2014), when you speed up videos in Safari the sound is distorted and weird, while in Chrome it sounds properly sped up. I use this a lot when watching educational videos. - Youtube videos max out at 1080p. - While there are decent ad blocking extensions, they're not as good as uBlock Origin. -…

With Big Sur safari now supports 4K YouTube videos

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by saagarjha »

lstamour wrote: post #79
izacus wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it still have adblocking limitations? The same that Chrome wanted to implement?

It now supports WebExtensions like Firefox: https://www.wwdcnotes.com/notes/wwdc20/10665/ That said, it prefers its existing adblock implementation over extensions that block network requests manually, as that functionality is disabled, I think? https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safariservices/saf... Note also that the existing Safari adblock implementation is not subject to the hard limit of 30,000 rules tha…

WebKit has a 50K rule limit per extension.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by _fat_santa »

lukifer wrote: post #130

Twice bitten, thrice shy. Every MacOS upgrade for the past 5+ years has been a bag of hurt: regressions in functionality and stability, annoying "features" like Notification Center and Catalina warning nags, various PITAs on fixing UNIX/dev toolchains, all for little to no benefit. I've stopped upgrading all my machines (other than security updates), unless forced by a mission-critical app or a new machine.

I have similar feelings. On the one hand I would love to check out the new version of MacOS. On the other hand I use my machine for work and can't afford any downtime.

I upgraded to Catalina 5-8 months after it was released, mostly because the initial rollout was so rocky (at least according to the articles on HN).

Going to keep my eyes peeled for reviews here in the next few weeks. Hopefully this is a more stable release than Catalina.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by saagarjha »

fsociety wrote: post #60
jb1991 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been under the assumption that FF with its ABP, uBlock, and Privacy Badger extensions, as well as the included FF tracking protections were the toughest you can get. Is Safari is up to that level now?

No, Safari is not bad at all but lack of third-party ad blockers hinders it.

Safari has many third-party adblockers.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by josephcsible »

bredren wrote: post #139
qz2 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was a complete deal breaker for me. Half the internet is unusable without a decent ad blocking implementation these days and a decent one is virtually impossible with the charred remains of the API they left behind. This was actually one of the (many) things that motivated me to migrate away from OSX.

Consider setting up a pihole locally or on a vps.

This isn't that effective anymore. A lot of sites now proxy their ads through their own Web server for the express purpose of making them harder to block. The only way to effectively block these, without something horribly draconian like breaking TLS, is a browser extension.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by booblik »

amativos wrote: post #137
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

A few things that kept me from using Safari full time (instead of Chrome) last time I tried it: - On my 15" Macbook Pro (mid 2014), when you speed up videos in Safari the sound is distorted and weird, while in Chrome it sounds properly sped up. I use this a lot when watching educational videos. - Youtube videos max out at 1080p. - While there are decent ad blocking extensions, they're not as good as uBlock Origin. -…

Good news for you then: the new Safari on Big Sur lets you play 4K HDR videos on youtube.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by ksec »

jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

It is great, but:

1. Just lost a few hundred Tabs from last session. Not the first time this has happened to me on Safari. ( Firefox used to have this problem as well, they implemented multiple LastSession.json to combat the problem and it is basically a thing of the past. )

2. Fav Icons meant they are no longer showing the Tab Description once you have a dozen tabs as they will shrink to Icons Size. So you either have normal Tabs or Tabs with Fav Icons, not both. ( This is new in Safari 14 )

3. Show Tab Overview will reload all the tabs, including those that were in idle / unload state. If you are a heavy tab user you should not do this. Having a hundred tabs reload will cause hundreds of GB of Data written to your SSD. Basically shortening its lifespan.

4. AFAIK ( I could be wrong ), Extensions still requires you to have an $99/ year developer account. Some of my favourite extensions are now either paid or can no longer be used.

Apart from that, yes it is very good.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by geoelectric »

iJohnDoe wrote: post #78

Is the full screen behavior still the same? Is it possible to disable apps from expanding to full screen and instead only expand to maximum size? The top menu bar is also hidden when apps go full screen. I think the only alternative is to hold down option key when expanding the window.

Hold down opt when you click the maximize button and it'll do what you want instead, and resize to cover all the area between dock and menu.

Assuming you have "zoom" set in System Preferences | Dock, double-clicking the title bar does that too, I believe.

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