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Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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This. I just want 32GB and a 13" screen!

That has been available for a while with the Intel chip version: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/13-inch-space... If you need 32 GB with the new ARM chips, you’ll probably have to wait a generation or two.

I'm aware, thanks

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Doesn't that more than halve the single-thread performance? 2.4 GHz vs 5.0 GHz on the i9-9980HK and 2.3 GHz vs 4.8 GHz on the i9-9980H

Sure, but this has almost no impact on my daily use. If I really need to run something heavy locally, I just turn it back on.

Ok, so like a reverse Turbo button. You’re running an i4 most of the time (and that’s fine) and sometimes you crank it up to i9 (when the solo begins, to stretch this metaphor to the limit).

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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A bit out of touch I think. All the midde age mothers I know personally buy $300 laptops from Walmart.

I think the point was that the people who buy the $999 laptops would be fine with the $300 laptops

Ah! Then yes I agree.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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I think the point was that the people who buy the $999 laptops would be fine with the $300 laptops

Exactly - I'd guess the majority of Macbook Airs are used for surfing, email, writing a presentation etc. not developing.

For this 8gb is fine though right? I get the idea - we want Apple to push the bar. But my 2011 4gb MacBook Air with Catalina does those things fine... swapping to an SSD is reasonably fast.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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The whole Android ecosystem is mostly written in Java which could also be another reason why it needs relatively more RAM for comparable performance.

While Java GC on Android may not always be optimal in regards to memory utilization (given that there are other concerns) and AFAIK doesn't allow tuning like you can do for enterprise Java apps it seems like quite a few improvements have been made over time and many GC implementations have resulted from this: https://proandroiddev.com/collecting-the-garbage-a-brief-his... Personally, i'd look at how common cross-plat…

The Native UI in React Native is where Native comes from in the name. Nothing to do with an electron app which is a full fledged browser with a node process attached to it. Not a fair comparison by large

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Agreed. But I can't think of an example of a company that ever voluntarily downsized. Downsizing usually happens because a new competitor arises that makes a product customers prefer. That's a very difficult proposition in the personal computer space.

If history is a lesson, any company that arises to compete with established players, gets acquired by them. And it's a shame no companies actually decline these acquisitions.

>no companies actually decline these acquisitions.

Not true. Yahoo made 2 separate offers to acquire Google, and an established social-media company offered to acquire Facebook (for a billion dollars IIRC).

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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On paper the new Macs seem like Raspberry Pis with a fancy case and display.

In 2012, the same Mac mini case held a cooling system for a 45W chip, 2x2.5" storage bays (or one storage bay and a DVD-Drive), 2 RAM slots, and had three more ports and a card reader. They really used every last corner. The new one is apparently half empty: https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22027513/m...

None of these new M1 devices will be densely packed. They’re putting smaller boards into the same enclosures. I assume next gen is when they will take advantage of space savings.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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How are companies still releasing hardware with 8GB RAM? My MacBook Air from ~2016 has 8GB of RAM. My first PC which had 8GB of RAM was built in ~2010 if I remember correctly. My current machine has 32GB. In all honesty, 32GB is not even much, considering my motherboard can take 128GB (in the old days, if your motherboard could take max 8GB RAM, people would fill all the slots to capacity). Also, I have a Lenovo mach…

I'm not even sure how much ram my laptop has. It's probably not that important.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Sure, but this has almost no impact on my daily use. If I really need to run something heavy locally, I just turn it back on.

Ok, so like a reverse Turbo button. You’re running an i4 most of the time (and that’s fine) and sometimes you crank it up to i9 (when the solo begins, to stretch this metaphor to the limit).

Exactly!

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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ºF or ºC? - fair difference there.

Goo point. -- Celsius.

Much more worthwhile, in that case. A couple degrees Fahrenheit means nothing IMHO but a couple degrees Celsius is at least physically noticeable. :)
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