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Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Forgive me for bringing it up, but this is also the reason why smart gun technology is a complete dead end.

Cars are every bit as dangerous as guns. But no one here seems to be in such a panic with Tesla or self-driving cars. I feel there is a bit of undercurrent of Luddite sentiment going around here. Lots of people mentioning how "primitive" a baby monitor is or should be. But is it? It's an LCD video screen powered by modern advancements in battery tech connected wirelessly to a CCD video camera, with sensing technology…

> I feel there is a bit of undercurrent of Luddite sentiment going around here.

Oh, I'm no Luddite, don't get me wrong---I'm a machine learning researcher. I have no problem with data science. The difference between all of the complex technology you pointed out inside the baby monitor and what we're talking about here is that all of that complex technology is robust and, for the most part, well-designed! The data science work here has tons of issues, and I think the vast majority of reactions are reacting to that: machine learning and data science really can be useful... but not if you apply it really badly. Someone else commented elsewhere in the thread that a simple thresholding algorithm would be just as effective---and not suffer from the myriad potential problems present with blindly applying TensorFlow because it's cool.

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Please, please, do not use something like this as the only method of monitoring a child’s safety. This sort of thing has given me honest to god nightmares. My day job is managing development and infrastructure of internet connected cameras, with motion detection, notifications, and all the rest of it. Every now and again someone new will start on the marketing team and put together something about using them as baby…

Lol... I don't think you understand how baby monitors are used.

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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No thank you. Baby monitors should not be connected to the internet, rely on machine learning to make decisions for you, or rely on push notifications to gain your attention. Keep them simple, local, reliable, and dumb AF. In this use case, less is most definitely more.

I ended up getting a simple video monitor from BT that is an "appliance" - it's not got a wifi connection or an app. It works great! And it'll keep working until we don't need it. No software updates, no discontinued support, no questionable data storage policies on chinese servers. Just a monitor. And it turns out that once the baby's passed ~4 months, the video isn't too important anyway. It's mostly "Is he crying…

Exactly, my #1 criteria for a baby monitor was that it does not connect to the internet! Maybe not enough parents have heard how people hack home networks and terrorize children through cameras.

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Lucky you. Baby #1 required beyond constant attention, literally like 30hr per day (healthy just needy). Baby #2 is sweet and easygoing, but then there’s 2 of them...

I have compassion for your experience having two of my own where one still is difficult after seven years, but I'm here to nitpick and win the pedantry award on your addition of "literally" when it's impossible to take 30 hours per day, as a day is only 24.

You will not win that award. From Merriam Webster:

> 2: in effect : VIRTUALLY —used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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This is great and all, but it has to be 100% utterly completely reliable with no false-negatives. If it doesn't tell you (i.e. false negative) even once , then you can guarantee that it will never be trusted ever again, especially by the birth parent. We've gone through a range of frankly awful monitors and cameras that simply were not reliable. E.g. cameras that would regularly go offline for maintenance between 3am…

Did you know that billions of babies were reared before video monitors were even invented?

Yes, and I also know that the parents of those billions of babies knew there wasn't a monitoring system.

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Please, please, do not use something like this as the only method of monitoring a child’s safety. This sort of thing has given me honest to god nightmares. My day job is managing development and infrastructure of internet connected cameras, with motion detection, notifications, and all the rest of it. Every now and again someone new will start on the marketing team and put together something about using them as baby…

What?? What do you imagine a baby monitor is for?? How good do you think the ones on the market are??

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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I have compassion for your experience having two of my own where one still is difficult after seven years, but I'm here to nitpick and win the pedantry award on your addition of "literally" when it's impossible to take 30 hours per day, as a day is only 24.

Do I get to steal that pedantry award if I point out that two parents can take 48 person-hours a day?

Not a fan of pedantry. Would like to see less of it in the world.

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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Please, please, do not use something like this as the only method of monitoring a child’s safety. This sort of thing has given me honest to god nightmares. My day job is managing development and infrastructure of internet connected cameras, with motion detection, notifications, and all the rest of it. Every now and again someone new will start on the marketing team and put together something about using them as baby…

A baby monitor is to detect if a baby is crying not if a baby is dying. It seems like your exaggerating the user need (system engineer in HW+ SW and father of 3 here). Most use cases for baby monitors are “im relatively nearby, but want to hear if the kiddo’s waking up”. This solution is great.

This exactly. My baby bro was a preemie with potential heart issues (he grew up fine), but he had a proper heart monitor connected with sticky leads 24x7 for the couple of months. It had a really loud siren and decent battery built in.

When you actually need health monitoring, you don't trust a baby monitor.

Re: Create your own smart baby monitor with a RaspberryPi and TensorFlow

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I have compassion for your experience having two of my own where one still is difficult after seven years, but I'm here to nitpick and win the pedantry award on your addition of "literally" when it's impossible to take 30 hours per day, as a day is only 24.

You will not win that award. From Merriam Webster: > 2: in effect : VIRTUALLY —used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible

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