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Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Can somebody explain how is M1 going to work on larger GPU tasks (rendering, encoding etc) with it's memory bandwidth M1 total memory bandwidth is 68.2 GB/s (128 bit LPDDR4x-4267)

AMD Radeon Pro 5600m memory bandwidth is 394.2 GB/s (2048 bit HBM2)

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-5600m.c3612

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Their line from the video about being the highest performance chip in single core appears to be true. This is of course a synthetic benchmark but the single core result is very promising. Note that the single core and multi core scores exceed the top-of-the-line 16” MacBook Pro (9th generation 8-core i9 2.4 ghz). I actually made the call to sell my 16” for the new Air yesterday. It’s looking like a good call. Glad I’…

I'm seriously considering doing the same thing. My only hesitation is the screen size. But right now the laptop I bought in January is being outclassed by one that costs 1/3 the price...

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My friends brother runs a landscaping business, purely off his iphone. He asked me for advice on how to get his iphone onto a laptop, like with an emulator or something. This was about a year ago, so the ARM mac stuff was just rumors at that stage, and I mentioned that it wasnt possible. Now, I can say hey if you get one of the new macbooks / mac minis, you can run your iphone apps natively. He probably will be one o…

Why bother with all that? Isn’t it easy enough to pair a keyboard and mouse to an iPad?

Only since the most recent version of iPad software, before that connecting a mouse was either impossible or through a hacky accessibility system.

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Surely a version that can beat a 8 core Xeon is made for 'actual professionals'?

Dunno, seems like most professionals would want to use docker, virtual machines, or enough video/data to want more than 16GB ram. Or maybe even plug in more than a charging cable and one more device. Or run more than one external monitor. Doesn't seem very "pro" to me. The MBP16" intel has 4 x USB-c ports, can drive two monitors, and can have >= 32GB ram.

> most professionals would want to use docker, virtual machines, or enough video/data to want more than 16GB ram

I'm a Sofwware Engineer / pro photographer / videographer.

I sling code from time to time, edit thousands of RAW files from my cameras and edit together 1080p footage day in and day out.

I did that for years on a 2013 MBA with 8GB of RAM. Now I have a 2015 MBP with 16GB of RAM. It's perfectly adequate.

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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This really flips the argument that Mac hardware is overpriced and underpowered on its head. Now Apple computers are a premium product from a performance perspective, as well.

So performant premium that I’m thinking of calling Apple about my MBP preorder and switching it to the Air. Last thing I need is a MacBook Air equivalent with an unnecessarily loud and annoying fan.

I would. It’s the same chip in every device. Plus, having owned one of each, the chassis of the Air cannot be beat.

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This idea of “actual professionals” that always comes up in response to apple’s “Pro” moniker amuses me to no end. Everybody throws the term around and no two people have the same definition! What in the world is an actual professional? There are professional journalists that just need a browser and text editor. There are professional programmers working on huge code bases in compiled languages that do need a beefy m…

I for example use the computer to develop ERP systems. I have always around 10 Docker containers running with different versions of the ERP's. I also need to run SQL server natively on my machine. Also need to run VScode, Chrome, have few Excel's open, use Teams all day long, open Visual Studio from time to time and work with it etc.

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I wonder what Linus thinks of Geekbench's accuracy now: https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=136526&curpost... https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=185109&curpost... Personally I'm not convinced, until I see something like SPECint/SPECfp results.

Here is a video of what the other Linus thinks: https://youtu.be/ljApzn9YWmk

Re: Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro

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This really flips the argument that Mac hardware is overpriced and underpowered on its head. Now Apple computers are a premium product from a performance perspective, as well.

Does it? The article is comparing Apple products, instead of comparing an Apple product to an equivalent performer from a competitor. It's not really Apples to Apples (even if it is in name), so to speak.

It's comparing Apple Silicon to Intel silicon (in an Apple product), which is apples to oranges to me.

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So performant premium that I’m thinking of calling Apple about my MBP preorder and switching it to the Air. Last thing I need is a MacBook Air equivalent with an unnecessarily loud and annoying fan.

I would. It’s the same chip in every device. Plus, having owned one of each, the chassis of the Air cannot be beat.

Waiting for some more information. Fan noise on any MBP is Hell and out of control. Hoping this brings back to normal.

So happy Apple is dumping Fantel chips

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I’ve always used 15” MBPs without external displays as my only computer for years. I like being mobile and don’t particularly like having a desktop + laptop. Since COVID I’ve been stuck at home so I decided to finally get an external monitor. The problem is that you can’t use the 16” with an external display and the lid open without the fans spinning at full speed. Some people don’t mind it but it drives me crazy. No…

> The problem is that you can’t use the 16” with an external display and the lid open without the fans spinning at full speed Say what? I have a LG 5K and two 27” Apple Thunderbolt displays (four screens total including laptop display) hooked up to my 16” MBP and fans definitely are no where near full speed, unless I’m compiling or in a Google Hangout that is...

Why? Really interested.

Back in the day I had 2 Sun 20" GDM20E20 (1997) which was major $$ and after then I alway had 2 monitors, moving at some point to a single ultra wide LG (which are pretty neat). One day I looked at my setup and how I used it and realized I did not look at all of the screen. I swapped it for a small single Apple LG 4K and it turns out I am very happy. The dense nature of the 4K was a game changer. I plan on getting an 8K when it comes out.

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