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Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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The onboard graphics performance seems to be impressive (1050Ti - 1060 range). I wonder if Valve and Epic will start compiling games for ARM. This MacBook could be my first gaming laptop, who would have thought

> The onboard graphics performance seems to be impressive

I agree, although caveat emptor until independent benchmarks drop.

> I wonder if Valve and Epic will start compiling games for ARM

There are plenty of other problems besides lack of raw processing power that prevent the mac and macOS from being good gaming platforms. And of course, Epic and Apple are fighting it out over App Store policies, so they're unlikely to do each other any favors.

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I'm a dev and I have the air as my personal, side-project computer, and I have already ordered the new one. I use vim to develop primarily in python/js. So my need for performance is super low.

Hah, this reminds me of college. I remember some of my first CS courses, everyone either had a brand new mbp or an ALIENWARE super beefy laptop. I had a 300 dollar 7" netbook. Turns out that unless you're doing deep learning, etc. (which you might as well just run remote IMO), a bottom of the line intel atom processor can handle the workloads that a CS program throws at it no problem. I mean, in reality you're doing…

Some people want an all-in-one computer.

They don't want a separate desktop for heavy tasks.

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The responses here seem to not really acknowledge what a rabbit apple has been pulling out of the hat. 2-3x the performance both from a CPU and GPU perspective, whilst being far more energy and thermally efficient. Of course this was kind of known and rumoured, but now we know. Finally real competition for intel. If only these chips were available to others. they are literally running laps around the competition. Cur…

> Finally real competition for intel.

Unless Apple is going to sell these chips for other laptops, desktops and servers the only competition going on here is Apple competing with itself. Besides, AMD has been competing with Intel very well for the last couple years and have now pretty much taken over the market with their latest CPUs.

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I think they got it wrong. I would pay money to NOT have the touchbar.

As someone using a hackintosh considering a real Macbook, what's so wrong about it?

The latency on the touch bat is terrible. Perhaps 1/2 second to update when you switch apps, for example!

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#837

I’m just curious why do developers end up using macs when they can install linux on a custom hardware with more specs

> why do developers end up using macs To develop apps for macOS and iOS.

Agreed but besides developing apps for macOS or iOS

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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The M1 is basically what would Apple would call A14X / A14Z if it was on iPad Pro. So they decided to reuse the A14X / M1 across all three products. And the only differentiation are their TDP cooling. The MacBook Air is 10W TDP, and both Mac Mini and MacBook Pro are likely ~35W range. The did mention MacBook Air's SSD performances is now twice as fast, so this isn't exactly an iPad Pro with Keyboard. That is great ex…

You know, honestly, I think it's just time to stop making comments like this and admit that Apple isn't making products that you are interested in.

Stop letting them live rent free in your head.

It's a consumer product. WHO. CARES.

For the average user, these are fantastic. A laptop that lasts beyond the number of waking hours in a day and has no noisy fans with basically untouchable performance in that form factor. And YOU'RE STILL MAD...about the vocabulary that Tim Cook speaks with compared to Steve Jobs, who has been scientifically verified as being a completely different person. (I highly doubt Steve never said anything about loving Apple products, either)

In other words, Steve Jobs has been dead for almost 10 years, it's time to leave his personality cult. If you liked what he said better, it's probably because he was one of the best salespeople who has ever lived - that doesn't change what the product actually IS.

And oh my goodness, stop getting worked up about specs and industry-standard price segmentation practices. 99% of customers DO. NOT. CARE. The VAST majority of MacBook Air buyers buy the base model and don't need anything more than that. macOS is perfectly usable on 8GB, heck my parents are using 4GB on theirs and it works fine - yes, with Catalina. No joke, you need to open up something like 40 chrome tabs before it matters. RAM requirements have completely stagnated for anything but the most exotic workloads.

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If you look at the power supplies it's 30 vs 60 Watts, definitely interested to see what kind of TDP Apple targets with these machines.

They've stated that they target 10W in the Air, the cooling system in the Pro is identical to the Intel so probably 28W ish, and the Mac Mini specs say maximum 150W continuous power, but that probably includes a few tens of watts of USB and peripherals.

2 port Pros usually have 15 watt parts and only a single fan. Of course, PL2 goes far above 15W.

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That's the same as previous low-end MBP.

that's right but the 'regular' one had 4. I've already seen a pro user (in music production) complain about this. But my point here is that the fact they are both the same supports the theory that the logic board is the same on both models.

They’re continuing to sell the 4 port Intel 13” Pro.
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