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This is their 13" model. Their 15" model is targeted for professionals.
Both have a 16 GB limitation.
They haven't announced a 15/16inch Apple Silicon Mac yet.
Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers
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Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers
#192Max 16GB of RAM on these new machines is really not that great to be honest. The mini supported up to 64GB before.
I bought a Mac mini 2 weeks ago and I was sweating when they announced the new Mac mini, not anymore now that its only max 16GB. Apple has effectively killed expandable storage and memory in all of their line up. No doubt in the future they will offer larger memory options when they release the 16" Macbook pro. Need 32GB a year later down the road for your mini? Just buy a new one!
Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
huge own-goal on Apple's part. It would be literally impossible for me to use this machine to do my job. I guess I'll have to wait until M2. Edit: If it wasn't clear, this was not a joke. I develop a relatively heavyweight service on the JVM, and between my IDE, the code I run, and all the gradle build daemon stuff, I regularly use up more than 32GB. Often over 50GB. (Although some swap is tolerable, having the major…
Is there even a JVM available for darwin-armv8 ?
If there isn’t yet, I’d be shocked if there won’t be one soon.
Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers
#194I'm interested to see the benchmarks vs. comparable AMD systems. Some of the claims, like 2x performance increase on the MBP are impressive, but intel laptops have been absolutely trounced by AMD 4000-series laptops of late.
Also will be interested to see the benchmarks of the integrated GPU vs. discreet GPU performance.
Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers
#195The M1 is basically what would Apple would call A14X / A14Z if it was on iPad Pro.
So they decided to reuse the A14X / M1 across all three products. And the only differentiation are their TDP cooling. The MacBook Air is 10W TDP, and both Mac Mini and MacBook Pro are likely ~35W range.
The did mention MacBook Air's SSD performances is now twice as fast, so this isn't exactly an iPad Pro with Keyboard. That is great except I suddenly remember the 2019 MacBook Air actually had a slower SSD than the 2018 MacBook Air. Where the 2018 do Read at 2GB/s, 2019 could only do 1.3GB/s. So even at 2x / 2.6GB/s it is still only slightly better than 2018. And considering modern day NVME SSD, this is barely good enough.
Pricing kept at $999, and same old ridiculous upgrade pricing of RAM and Storage. Although they did lower the Education Pricing to $899, a little bit better than previous ~$829. But for MacBook Pro, You are essentially paying $300 more for a Fan and Touch Bar. And Pro still limited to 16GB Memory ( because it is now using the LPDDR RAM as used on iPad ).
I guess may be this is exciting for many, but extremely underwhelming to me.
A Quote from Steve Jobs:
“When you have a monopoly market share, the people who can make the company more successful are sales and marketing people, and they end up running the companies, the product people get driven out of the decision making forums. Companies forget what it takes to make great products. The product sensibility, the product genius that brought them to this monopolistic position is rotted out... The people running these companies have no conception of a good product versus a bad product. They've got no conception of the craftsmanship that's required to take a good idea and turn it into a good product. They really have no feeling in their heart about wanting to really help the customers”
And my small rant and wishes, Dear Tim Cook / Apple, Please Stop Saying you LOVE something. There is no need for you to tell me that, because if you did love something; We will know. Steve never said anything along those lines, but we all know he cares way more than any of us could even imagine.
Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers
#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
huge own-goal on Apple's part. It would be literally impossible for me to use this machine to do my job. I guess I'll have to wait until M2. Edit: If it wasn't clear, this was not a joke. I develop a relatively heavyweight service on the JVM, and between my IDE, the code I run, and all the gradle build daemon stuff, I regularly use up more than 32GB. Often over 50GB. (Although some swap is tolerable, having the major…
Is there even a JVM available for darwin-armv8 ?
There is in development, but it recently stopped working due to increased codesigning requirements :(
Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers
#197I don't know if this will be a big success, but if it is, I think ARM will take over a large amount of server/cloud market.
> but if it is, I think ARM will take over a large amount of server/cloud market. Seeing as how Apple has zero presence in the server/cloud market, how do you figure? Are you hoping they bring back xserve? Otherwise I don't see how Apple having a custom power-efficient chip in a laptop is going to do anything at all in the server/cloud market?
If my dev environment and build pipline is all ARM, I might as well get a ARM based server in production if they are available at a reasonable price.
Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers
#198I'm very curious to see some real benchmarks. I have no doubt that they've achieved state of the art efficiency using 5nm, but I have a harder time believing that they can outperform the highest end of AMD and Intel's mobile offerings by so much (especially without active cooling). Their completely unit-less graph axes are really something...
They can probably out perform them, but only for a few seconds/minutes. That's why they put a fan in the pro.
Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers
#199wow, 5nm, memory, gpu, and cpu on the same soc. RX 560 has the same 2.6 tflops as this gpu on this chip. They say 4x more efficient at 10w and 2x more powerful than intel.
RX 560 has about 100 GB/s memory bandwidth, how does that department stack up?
Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers
#200I honestly expected more. While compute performance and power efficiency seems to be really good, the M1 chip is apparently limited to 16GB RAM, 2TB storage and 2 Thunderbolt/USB4 controllers. Comparing the new 13" MacBook Pro with the previous one that's a regression in every aspect as the Intel-based ones allow up to 32GB RAM and 4TB storage and offer 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports.
While compute performance and power efficiency seems to be really good, the M1 chip is apparently limited to 16GB RAM, 2TB storage and 2 Thunderbolt/USB4 controllers.
In other words, M1 is for the majority of consumers.
- power efficiency
- 16GB RAM
- 2TB storage
- 2 Thunderbolt/USB4