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Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by submeta »

benhurmarcel wrote: post #519
submeta wrote: post #479

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Oh Apple, why are you doing this, taking freedom from your customers. I don‘t want to use Windows, neither do I want to tinker with Ubuntu. But if you keep going that path, you are forcing your power users to think about migrating to platforms that respect users freedom to do whatever they want to do with their machines. After two years of using an otherwise beautiful iPad Pro (along with my MBP) I came to realize th…

Yes the iPad is "crippled" in that sense, but I find it's an excellent accessory to a computer. Not everything I do needs a terminal, my Python scripts, favorite text editor, and rapid multitasking. The iPad is a wonderful (albeit expensive) side device for lighter activities on the couch, in the kitchen, or on the go. It doesn't need to be our only computing device to be appreciated, and not every computing device n…

What I am lamenting is the observation that the iPad OS seems to be Apples vision for how computers should work: Crippled, not much user control, just content-consuming devices with Apple controlling every aspect of it. That’s not a personal computer anymore, not a device where we have much control over it.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by dr_dshiv »

baggy_trough wrote: post #464
tiffanyh wrote: post #445

I don't understand the pricing of the MacBook Air vs the 13" Pro. The Air ($1249) vs 13" Pro ($1299), you get: - same CPU - same GPU - same Neural chip - same RAM (8gb) - More storage for the Air (512gb vs 256gb with 13" Pro) - You get Touch Bar with 13" Pro So if you don't care about the Touch Bar, you actually get with the Air: - better specs - smaller device footprint - and $50 cheaper. Am I missing something?

Not having the Touch Bar is worth at least several hundred dollars.

Yeah, so i don't accidentally trigger Siri all. the. time.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by crummy »

bosswipe wrote: post #558
hankchinaski wrote: post #485

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i personally prefer secure hardware at the expense of not being able to play around with other OSes - i am sure i am not alone

What advantage do you see to "secure hardware", I'm unaware of any recent Mac security issue that would have been prevented by it. It gives Apple a lot more control over the device but I don't see any advantage to the user.

One advantage I could see would be lowering value for thieves, if it worked out like locked phones that cannot just be wiped and resold.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by corford »

geodel wrote: post #380
lostgame wrote: post #346

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16GB RAM max prevented me from an immediate purchase. Next year, when I can at least have 32GB and be somewhat future-proofed. That they are still selling new computers for $1000+ in 2020 with 8GB RAM as the default and 16GB of RAM max is a bad joke.

Dell XPS 1000+ 8GB, Lenovo X1: 1000+ 8GB, Thinkpad T14s 1000+ 8GB, this list could be long. Even System76 linux computers are 1000+ for 8GB config. I do not know where you got this idea that 1000+ laptop have 16GB default. I am sure there will be consumer (crap) computers like HP pavilion, Dell inspiron etc where one can get 1000+ computer with 16GB or so RAM.

My Huawei MateBook 13 2020 Ultra has 16GB and cost ~€1200 i.e. same ball park as the ones you listed (i7, 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM, GeForce MX250, 2736x1824 display).

Apart from the RAM the main reason I went for it was the resolution (I liked the extra height in a 13" form factor). Also, it works with linux - though haven't tried it yet.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by Aloisius »

callamdelaney wrote: post #150

I'll be sticking with my 2015 Macbook Pro Retina 13". Great machine, not too thin, heavy enough, no stupid touch screen, usb ports, great keyboard. Everything apple has done since hasn't compared.

> not too thin, heavy enough

Wait. What? I can honestly say that I've never thought to myself that a laptop was too thin or too light.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

jonplackett wrote: post #155

Lots I'm impressed with but... it's a shame to see they've cut the storage capacity in half! Finally with the last update of Macbook Pro they ditched the ridiculous 256gb SSD and went 512/1tb in the 2 pre-built models. Now we're back to 256/512. The impressively low starting price is hiding behind this and the halving of default RAM too.

I believe that was only for the higher end 4 port MacBook Pro 13, not the lower end 2 port version that the new ARM version is replacing.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by djsumdog »

wlesieutre wrote: post #566
rbanffy wrote: post #553

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We are not looking at a typical Mac user here, are we?

Slack, Whatsapp, Discord, and Skype, pick any two and I don't think it's unusual.

Electron is cancer .. but Skype is native (for now, at least on Linux. Although I'm sure they'll switch to the Teams codebase and Skype native will disappear forever too)
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