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Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by asdff »

jedberg wrote: post #185
bsimpson wrote: post #167

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What a bizarre limitation. You'd think once they had them on both sides, they'd keep them that way for exactly the kind of flexibility you mention.

You would also think they would keep the MagSafe connector, which was truly revolutionary (and has definitely saved me at least a dozen times), but yet here we are.

I've already tripped or stumbled on my usb-c cable dozens of times working from home. The damn thing is already pulling out at the ends. Why can't apple make good cables? They make their environmental statement making you buy the charger for your phone rather than shipping one in the box, just to sell you junk cables that don't last. I had old multipin cables and earbuds from the original ipod that still hold up. All of their textured grippy feeling cables have been crap.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by kjsthree »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #471
heavyset_go wrote: post #295

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This exact issue is something Stallman[1] and others have talked about for a while now[2]. [1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html [2] https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

I use a mac for work (and paid for by work) but refuse to spend my money on something I can't use the way I would like to use it. I think that these companies shouldn't be able to lock you out of you using your tractor/car/computer like everyone seems to be moving towards. It's a real shame. I understand if they want to void the warranty because a user blew away some critical firmware, but that's another ball of wax…

Agree wholeheartedly!

Void my warranty, boot with a scary splash screen, whatever, but don’t lock me out of the thing I ostensibly own. Or, maybe change the “buy” button to a “license to use” button in your store.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by asdff »

fastball wrote: post #376
dawnerd wrote: post #259

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That's disappointing. Dual 4k isn't that uncommon. Sounds like their chip isn't quite as powerful as they're leading on?

You run two 4k screens and the laptop screen itself from an existing 13" laptop?

You can do that on the intel macbook air.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by FireBeyond »

djhaskin987 wrote: post #444
tiffanyh wrote: post #425

Apple officially has dropped mentioning the CPU frequency for these new Macs (just like they don't mentioned it with iOS devices)

Indeed. The CPU is 3.5x faster "than before". What is this before? December 2020 or the last time they made their own chip?

And "faster than the latest Intel mobile CPU".

Note they say "latest", not "best". That means that a Celeron 5205U, dual core processor with 1.9GHz, no turbo, no hyper threading, 2MB L1, would be a valid baseline.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by baggy_trough »

fastball wrote: post #430
werber wrote: post #417

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I use the 2020 macbook air personally and 16in professionally and the keyboard drives me insane, to the point I bought a magic keyboard to be able to function without screaming at my computer for accidentally turning my video camera on yet again during a meeting. I really wish they would have a no touch bar option, because I could use more power but still be able to touch type. Touch bar is the worst technological "i…

I'm genuinely surprised you are accidentally touching the TouchBar. I have had the 16" for 8 months and haven't done that once.

Must be finger positioning. I hit the TouchBar accidentally several times a day, each of which was infuriating, until I managed to semi-disable it by turning it into a row of inferior function keys.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by gnicholas »

regulation_d wrote: post #46

Did I miss something, or are they, once again, not upgrading the camera? The low light performance of the current version is real bad. Since we're all using these cameras way more, I really thought there would a hardware bump. You can only squeeze so much detail out of an under-exposed, noisy image with software.

I agree that the cameras are subpar. I wonder if Apple figures that most Mac users already have an iPhone, and that if they want to use a better camera for videoconferencing, they can always just plug in their iPhone and use it as the camera.

Has anyone done this? I've considered using my iPad Pro's camera this way but have never cared enough to actually do it.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by reaperducer »

obilgic wrote: post #497
tiffanyh wrote: post #445

I don't understand the pricing of the MacBook Air vs the 13" Pro. The Air ($1249) vs 13" Pro ($1299), you get: - same CPU - same GPU - same Neural chip - same RAM (8gb) - More storage for the Air (512gb vs 256gb with 13" Pro) - You get Touch Bar with 13" Pro So if you don't care about the Touch Bar, you actually get with the Air: - better specs - smaller device footprint - and $50 cheaper. Am I missing something?

I literally had to cancel orders after noticing this as well, was very confusing even for a developer. Also, what's the difference between the left and the right versions? just the storage? can't you configure the storage? why do they make it look like there are 2 different options.

what's the difference between the left and the right versions

Just the storage. They're suggested configurations, presented to make it easy for the masses, not the HN tinkerers.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by asdff »

stevewodil wrote: post #223
saagarjha wrote: post #162

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Not every 13" MacBook Pro has had four Thunderbolt ports; the base model always had just two. This computer clearly replaces that one, and Apple will launch another MacBook Pro in the future to replace the rest.

Oh that's right there was the model without the touchbar that had two ports and was a carryover from 2017, thanks for clarifying

There was a model even with the touchbar that only had two ports and one fan. the four port model got you more cores and two fans, quite a different computer internally despite sharing the same shape and 13" macbook pro label. very confusing for consumers.

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Post by benhurmarcel »

submeta wrote: post #479
AnonHP wrote: post #140

Apple mentioned in the event that these Macs will have hardware verified secure boot. Since I’m not very knowledgeable in this area, can someone explain (or even try to guess) what this would/could mean for running Linux on these? I use Macs way beyond Apple’s support timeframe with OS X/macOS, and Linux is the one that runs on some of the older Macs and provides adequate security and security related software update…

Oh Apple, why are you doing this, taking freedom from your customers. I don‘t want to use Windows, neither do I want to tinker with Ubuntu. But if you keep going that path, you are forcing your power users to think about migrating to platforms that respect users freedom to do whatever they want to do with their machines. After two years of using an otherwise beautiful iPad Pro (along with my MBP) I came to realize th…

Yes the iPad is "crippled" in that sense, but I find it's an excellent accessory to a computer. Not everything I do needs a terminal, my Python scripts, favorite text editor, and rapid multitasking. The iPad is a wonderful (albeit expensive) side device for lighter activities on the couch, in the kitchen, or on the go.

It doesn't need to be our only computing device to be appreciated, and not every computing device needs to be powerful.

Re: Introducing the next generation of Mac

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Post by mrfusion »

tiffanyh wrote: post #445

I don't understand the pricing of the MacBook Air vs the 13" Pro. The Air ($1249) vs 13" Pro ($1299), you get: - same CPU - same GPU - same Neural chip - same RAM (8gb) - More storage for the Air (512gb vs 256gb with 13" Pro) - You get Touch Bar with 13" Pro So if you don't care about the Touch Bar, you actually get with the Air: - better specs - smaller device footprint - and $50 cheaper. Am I missing something?

Same screen?
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