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How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by Wistar »

xenadu02 wrote: post #218
cnity wrote: post #153

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Are these shill accounts? I've seen raving template-looking comments for Brother in every printer thread for the past few weeks. Get yourself a Edit: Sorry if I'm jumping the gun. Maybe they really are just great?

I'm not shilling. Most of the other printer manufacturers have followed the HP model to create much worse products. It's a cesspool. Brother is one of the few left standing that hasn't taken that road and I think they should be rewarded for it. FWIW they also sell color laser printers and I'm using one right now. It connects over the network, supports AirPrint, and just sits there quietly doing a good job. It doesn't…

I loved Samsung laser printers mostly because they can reliably print on heavier stock than any other printer I have tried. They also were able to print peel-and-stick forms without melting the adhesive.

And then, about a year ago, their OEM toner cartridges suddenly became almost impossible to find and more expensive than the printer itself and the cheaper, third-party cartridges just don't work well at all. So, I had to reluctantly abandon Samsung. I am still looking for a good replacement.

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Post by topspin »

api wrote: post #40

Don’t buy HP. Problem solved. Brother printers are great.

Don't print so damn much. Problem solved.

The printer companies are milking the vestigial cohort of people that just can't not use masses of paper for everything. I struggle to find a lot of sympathy for their self inflicted plight, and I'd really like to quit hearing about it.

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Post by pkaye »

adrianmonk wrote: post #205
floatingatoll wrote: post #155

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Why do you need a driver? I thought basically every 2020 printer - and CUPS - supported AirPrint.

Thanks. This is useful info. Brother's site says my printer does support AirPrint. And through the printer's internal web server, I can see under Network -> Protocol that AirPrint is there and enabled. I have the binary blob driver installed, so I guess this explains why two entries appear for this printer under Printer settings in Ubuntu. So, a minor mystery is solved, and I now see that I have the option of removin…

I have a Brother MFC printer on my network and my Ubuntu has it popping up automatically after install. No drivers were needed. Installing on Windows takes more work.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by hyperman1 »

londons_explore wrote: post #124
trboyden wrote: post #109

I still have no idea why people don't buy printers by first looking at what refills cost. It is simply baffling. The only way to penalize manufacturers that practice this type of anti-consumerism is to stop buying their products, not coming up with work-arounds. The average toner cartridge replacement from HP is $150. My Ricoh C261SFWn's replacement cartridge from Ricoh is $50. The quality is just as good and the Ric…

Most people don't print much. For typical home use, a printer might last 5 years printing 10 pages a month. That's 600 pages in the lifetime of the printer, which is less than a single cartridge. The real mistake people make is they don't realise they'll have to buy a new cartridge every 6 months because the old one has dried out.

I was in that category once then I got kids. A cheap color laser serves me well, even if the colors are off key enough to change any photo to some halloweenish nightmare. Kids dont care. Neither do I.

Now the printer before that basically never printed. I used it to scan my (postal) mail. One day it decided to upgrade its firmware, then refused to scan without ink. What a waste.

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Post by Dagger2 »

paulgb wrote: post #101
mattkevan wrote: post #72

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My Epson has been bugging about a firmware update for ages. Not a chance I’m going to upgrade as it kicks up enough of a fuss about third-party ink as it is.

The most infuriating thing about Epson inkjets is that they refuse to function if any color ink is low. I can't print black and white right now because I'm waiting on a yellow cartridge to arrive. Most bizarre is that I never actually print color, except for running calibration, so I don't know where all the ink went.

That really sounds like you should be buying a new printer, not new cartridges for this printer. (I'm going to mirror the suggestions from everywhere else in this thread and tell you to get a laser, especially since you don't ever print color.)

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Post by bonoboTP »

hathym wrote: post #178
numpad0 wrote: post #95

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How do I use a printer without an Internet connected computer either connected to or integrated into it?

With hp instantink you are forced to connect to the internet if you want to receive ink refills

Of course, I don't want to stay in any business relationship with HP. But I ordered a bunch of 3rd party cartridges and want to use them up at least before getting rid of this junk.

The above hack was useful for me, so that the already bought 3rd party ink won't go to waste.

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Post by the_pwner224 »

javadocmd wrote: post #213
Unklejoe wrote: post #141

If all you need is black and white printing, there is no need to be buying HP inkjet printers anymore. Get yourself a Mine has been going strong for like 10 years now.

I wish the first thread I saw was this enthusiastic about Brother. I've got an HP delivering today because it sounded like the Linux driver support was more solid -- didn't see a mention of this proprietary cartridges nonsense. Mea culpa for not doing more research I guess.

The latest Brother lasers also have proprietary cartridges, but the chip that does the DRM just slides out of a slot in the cartridge and so as long as you don't discard it you can keep reusing that chip in unofficial cartridges.

With IPP (AirPrint) built into CUPS now, my Brother actually works better (has a bigger range of print options) without their drivers installed.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by varispeed »

brink wrote: post #157
varispeed wrote: post #114

Samsung did similar thing with their S9 and probably other phones. You had perfectly working call recording functionality until it was blocked by software update that you cannot turn off - you can only postpone every day or so.

They also removed the photosphere feature from their phone's camera app when they released the Gear 360. I'm not saying they're not allowed to do that, but it did make me want to never buy a Samsung phone again.

I have the same feeling about Samsung. I am shopping for a new phone, unfortunately I cannot find any review that would say whether call recording works on a particular phone.

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Post by lscotte »

the_pwner224 wrote: post #237
javadocmd wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish the first thread I saw was this enthusiastic about Brother. I've got an HP delivering today because it sounded like the Linux driver support was more solid -- didn't see a mention of this proprietary cartridges nonsense. Mea culpa for not doing more research I guess.

The latest Brother lasers also have proprietary cartridges, but the chip that does the DRM just slides out of a slot in the cartridge and so as long as you don't discard it you can keep reusing that chip in unofficial cartridges. With IPP (AirPrint) built into CUPS now, my Brother actually works better (has a bigger range of print options) without their drivers installed.

I've found cheap Chinese replacement cartridges on Amazon for my Brother color laser that come with the chip. Not that it's hard to move the chip over, but the price was the same as ones without the chip. Hopefully firmware updates won't break these working.

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Post by lscotte »

billsmithaustin wrote: post #151
Unklejoe wrote: post #141

If all you need is black and white printing, there is no need to be buying HP inkjet printers anymore. Get yourself a Mine has been going strong for like 10 years now.

Brother also has a handy iOS app for printing and scanning.

It's available on Android too.
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