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How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by walrus01 »

trboyden wrote: post #109

I still have no idea why people don't buy printers by first looking at what refills cost. It is simply baffling. The only way to penalize manufacturers that practice this type of anti-consumerism is to stop buying their products, not coming up with work-arounds. The average toner cartridge replacement from HP is $150. My Ricoh C261SFWn's replacement cartridge from Ricoh is $50. The quality is just as good and the Ric…

it's a very old business model, the same way people don't buy 4/5 blade razor by first looking at what the ongoing blade purchases cost.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by artificialLimbs »

numpad0 wrote: post #95
bonoboTP wrote: post #74

Mine doesn't have the allow downgrades option I think. But this worked for me: > "Unplug printer’s power cord from the back of the printer Press and HOLD the power button Plug power cord back in (keep holding power button) The HP logo will appear then the screen will go blank Hold power button for 10 seconds and then release it Press HOME BUTTON ONCE (top left) Press RETURN/BACK ARROW ONCE (bottom left) Press HOME BU…

How do I use a printer without an Internet connected computer either connected to or integrated into it?

You could configure your router to only allow traffic from the printer to devices on the LAN, but at this point I would throw it out and buy a new one.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by Symbiote »

artificialLimbs wrote: post #112
numpad0 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do I use a printer without an Internet connected computer either connected to or integrated into it?

You could configure your router to only allow traffic from the printer to devices on the LAN, but at this point I would throw it out and buy a new one.

Return it for a refund and buy a different one.

Otherwise, how will HP and the shops selling this crap learn?

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by londons_explore »

numpad0 wrote: post #95
bonoboTP wrote: post #74

Mine doesn't have the allow downgrades option I think. But this worked for me: > "Unplug printer’s power cord from the back of the printer Press and HOLD the power button Plug power cord back in (keep holding power button) The HP logo will appear then the screen will go blank Hold power button for 10 seconds and then release it Press HOME BUTTON ONCE (top left) Press RETURN/BACK ARROW ONCE (bottom left) Press HOME BU…

How do I use a printer without an Internet connected computer either connected to or integrated into it?

There is a setting in the menu to disable updates.

I reckon that'll do the job. If you enable it, various features get disabled like the ability to email a pdf file to the printer for it to print.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by huhtenberg »

Tepix wrote: post #91
dorfsmay wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a Brother printer with wifi. The day it upgrades and block me from using reasonably priced toner, I'll set up to a Raspberry Pi as a print server and hook it up via USB. I'm wondering how much of a market there's going to be for this and if cheaper devices could be used.

> The day it upgrades and block me from using reasonably priced toner, I'll set up to a Raspberry Pi as a print server and hook it up via USB. By then it would be too late. Alas it seems Brother doesn't do these things. It's HP. People should stop buying their products.

Brother makes remarkably well-designed and BS-free products. From hardware to software. It's like a breath of fresh air, really.

E.g. - Had a paper jam at some point. The on-device screen said "Paper jam. Open the front panel." Opened it, the message changed to "Remove the toner cartridge." Removed it, and it kept on going to tell where to look, what to pull, etc. Ditto with the driver installation - downloaded, run, clicked OK, done. No junk to "manage my printing experience", just what's needed to control all printing options, all laid out clearly, and exactly where Microsoft says it should be. Beautiful. Almost shed a tear.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by varispeed »

LeonM wrote: post #27
a012 wrote: post #10

Most of printer drivers are BS. I also bought a printer after lockdown, and had to spent hours to do research on the printer model that's interested me: Mac & linux compatible. The result is Brother is the most reliable and less BS than the rest printers. In the end, I bought a wireless Brother printer, and you can throw whatever cartridge in to it.

I have run a paperless business (and life, mostly) for the past 10 years. For some old-fashoned customers I always carried a Brother DS-mobile 600 portable document scanner in my bag. The scanner was expensive, but really nice. And it worked perfectly with MacOS 'capture' application that existed on Snowleapard (10.6). However, Apple removed TWAIN support in MacOs Lion (10.7), and Brother refused to release updated d…

It seems like Apple takes the walled garden principle to its extremes. What harm TWAIN support was doing? Maybe they want the ability to see the documents users are scanning? Sometimes it could be a valuable source of IP.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by londons_explore »

pzs wrote: post #83
lsaferite wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a LaserJet printer he's talking about FWIW.

I bought an original HP cartridge for my Laserjet printer because I read that 3rd party cartridges may have issues with displaying the amount of ink left. Everything was all fine until the other day I did some cleaning on my desk and put my printer on the floor for 15 minutes. Since I put it back on my desk, it has been complaining that the cartridge is close to being empty, whereas it should be at about 70%. I remov…

There is no level sensor in cartridges. It simply counts pages and time. After a fixed number of pages, or a fixed number of days, it says "ink is low".

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by mobilio »

Nextgrid wrote: post #31
LeonM wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have run a paperless business (and life, mostly) for the past 10 years. For some old-fashoned customers I always carried a Brother DS-mobile 600 portable document scanner in my bag. The scanner was expensive, but really nice. And it worked perfectly with MacOS 'capture' application that existed on Snowleapard (10.6). However, Apple removed TWAIN support in MacOs Lion (10.7), and Brother refused to release updated d…

A solution (if you still need the scanner) is to use VueScan: https://www.hamrick.com It's an application that has its own (reverse-engineered) drivers for many USB scanners that doesn't depend on the system having support for it. I've used it and it works perfectly, though the UI is quite complex at first glance due to the amount of various configuration options it offers.

VueScan it's good but doesn't helps if there isn't scanner drivers.

I've have old ScanJet 3600C and it's still works flawless. But no drivers for new macOS versions.

And short research found this: http://www.sane-project.org

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by ghostDancer »

taneliv wrote: post #47
alpanka wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HP laserjets have pretty good Linux support, it's usually plugnplay on Ubuntu.

I have had nothing but problems with HP LaserJet CP1025nw color on Ubuntu in the last five years or so (and on Arch I could not make it print anything). Bought it based on similar comments, so buyer beware. The only thing that has worked (at all) has been the instructions and software from http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ , even if the site looks way too sketchy to my liking. Recently, though, even those drivers have starte…

The zjs printers on Linux are a PITA. I have a LaserJet 1020. And I have had times where it worked flawlessly, then a change in a kernel module or anything else and stoped working but not always only sometimes, sometimes the distribution drivers worked, others only the ones in the ffo2zjs page ones, so I had to change from one to the other . Now it looks like they are more stable and only had problems once when someone made a mistake in an update of the driver it was solved in less than a week once located.
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