Plant based isn't always the best option for nutrition and environment. In fact with regenerative agricultural practices, holistic management and grass fed/finished cows, more carbon can be captures in solid than released. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/08/13/746576239/is...
McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu
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My grocery bill decreased when I started eating exclusively plant based foods. In most meals the most expensive item on the plate is the meat.
Plant based food are cheap because the overwhelming majority of government subsidies go to farmers and not ranchers. (there are some misleading charts on the internet that try to bundle school lunch programs providing milk as a meat subsidy)
It’s not misleading. You don’t get milk without killing calves soon after they’re born and their mothers after a few years.
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#433I think it’ll be a big win when plant-based burgers are cheaper than animal based burgers. From a raw ingredients standpoint plant based food should almost always be cheaper than animal based food because the costs associated with farming plants is lower than the costs associated with farming animals. Hopefully, with McDonald’s scale and with their vertical integration they can make affordable, tasty, and comparably…
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/04/mcdonalds-salad-has-more-cal...
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How so? The cost of soybeans is a lot cheaper to make an artificial burger (once they get the R&D down) than feeding the same soybeans to a cow and getting roughly 1:10 the calorie weight due to energy pyramids. You can get roughly 200 kg of protein per acre per year, while cows it is roughly 19 kg of protein per acre per year. Of course this is talking future costs, for we are still perfecting artificial plants / pr…
Are the soybeans they're feeding to cows interchangeable with human consumption soybeans?
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> It's also more accepting for people who have various dietary restrictions Except for those on a ketogenic diet.
I can’t imagine McDonald’s is a great option for that, anyway.
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#436Earlier quoted context omitted.
How so? The cost of soybeans is a lot cheaper to make an artificial burger (once they get the R&D down) than feeding the same soybeans to a cow and getting roughly 1:10 the calorie weight due to energy pyramids. You can get roughly 200 kg of protein per acre per year, while cows it is roughly 19 kg of protein per acre per year. Of course this is talking future costs, for we are still perfecting artificial plants / pr…
Are the soybeans they're feeding to cows interchangeable with human consumption soybeans?
The problem is government is subsidizing animal product but not plant based product due to corporate politics.
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Oi but is eating bacteria and yeast - a living organism - vegan?
Well your mouth, gut is full of living organism and well, you inhale, consume living organisms all the time just by existing so I wonder how far this argument can go. As far as veganism goes I think bacteria is where they draw the line right?
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You are way overestimating the effect of subsidies.
How so? The cost of soybeans is a lot cheaper to make an artificial burger (once they get the R&D down) than feeding the same soybeans to a cow and getting roughly 1:10 the calorie weight due to energy pyramids. You can get roughly 200 kg of protein per acre per year, while cows it is roughly 19 kg of protein per acre per year. Of course this is talking future costs, for we are still perfecting artificial plants / pr…
2. There are many costs to a cooked burger outside the cost of the patty.
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I make cashew "mozzarella" for my vegan pizza. Everybody I know absolutely loves it.
If you’re vegan because you’re against cruelty, you might want to reconsider eating cashews. They’re processed in facilities that are often horrifically cruel to the workers [1]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/nov/02/c...
See example of oil. There has been too many controversies regarding palm oil and how it destroys orangutan habitat. But now if we shift to olive oil which many people did there was a news of some bird being killed for that?
So the question is can we have 100% vegan? No for sure
But can we try to vegan as much as possible? Yes for sure.
And I will not eat the cashews from those company that are responsible for being horrifically cruel to workers. Same for palm oil and olive oil. We shall try for best.
Re: McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu
#440Plant based isn't always the best option for nutrition and environment. In fact with regenerative agricultural practices, holistic management and grass fed/finished cows, more carbon can be captures in solid than released. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/08/13/746576239/is...