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Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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#91

I wonder if the people scared of permanent damage caused by Covid (for which there is no evidence) will be equally scared of the permanent damage caused by this experimental vaccine (for which there is no evidence either).

> I wonder if the people scared of permanent damage caused by Covid (for which there is no evidence)

According to Google, 1.26M deaths and counting. If dying is not permanent damage, I'm not sure what is.

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#92
post #39

Interesting timing here with regards to the US election. Edit/Update: "She said she learned of the results from the outside panel of experts shortly after 1 p.m. on Sunday, and that the timing was not influenced by the election." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/heal... Edit2: I failed to realize that it was necessary to point out that the timing of this press release is interesting. I wasn't i…

Hey I got decent aluminum foil hats I can sell you for $500/each. They are the only way to protect against deep state mind control rays :)

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#93
post #17

Seems like a good time to buy shares in whoever manufactures industrial sized extra cold freezers.

Not really. Pfizer has bet big on this by preemptively manufacturing the vaccine. They're already filling freezers. Unless you're referring to the freezers some less equipped distribution centers/agencies will need you acquire?

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#94
post #12

By not knowing how long the immunity/protection lasts, it could mean people would have take the vaccine every 6months?12months?

If you get the virus, you only appear to be immune for a short time (6months, would have to look it up). This matches other coronavirus and how you can get colds multiple times a year.

In reality, a vaccine is probably going to offer a lower (but if this study is true, acceptable) level of protection. I wouldn’t be surprised if the protection drops exponentially after 2 months. Similar to the live virus

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#95
post #69

"However, there are logistical challenges as the vaccine has to be kept in ultra-cold storage at below minus 80C." Does anyone know how many of the other vaccine candidates have this limitation? It seems to me that a vaccine with easier logistics might still end up having a bigger impact overall, despite not being the first - although that of course needs to be combined with the ease of production too (I don't know h…

I know that several of the vaccine candidates require similarly cold storage for their entire distribution cycle until they are being used. Disclaimer: I work for big pharma.

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except Zoom's, which fell from 514 to 410 in less than an hour. Really puts the nails in coffin of the whole "we're gonna work more remotely after the pandemic" narrative.

Did it? I’m looking at ZOOM and it’s on 500

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ZM/

Zoom was 500 at close yesterday, in premarket trading it's dropped 13% to 435.

Nasdaq open at 1430 GMT

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#97
> The data released by Pfizer Monday was delivered in a news release, not a peer-reviewed medical journal. It is not conclusive evidence that the vaccine is safe and effective, and the initial finding of more than 90 percent efficacy could change as the trial goes on.

The title is quite sensationalistic for such preliminary results. Especially when they have only been reviewed by an "outside panel of experts" [1] who sometimes have undisclosed conflict of interests.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/health/covid-vaccine-pfiz...

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#98
post #91

I wonder if the people scared of permanent damage caused by Covid (for which there is no evidence) will be equally scared of the permanent damage caused by this experimental vaccine (for which there is no evidence either).

> I wonder if the people scared of permanent damage caused by Covid (for which there is no evidence) According to Google, 1.26M deaths and counting. If dying is not permanent damage, I'm not sure what is.

You know exactly what I meant so don't pretend otherwise. By the way, 1.26 million is less than 0.02% of the world's population.

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#99
post #13

UK already ordered 30M out of the 50M avail for this year. So no going on winter break to Thailand just yet! Wondering who will grab the next 20M, and how much this vaccine is being sold per dose. (edit: PFE is currently trading +13% pre-market on the NYSE)

At least in the US "Pfizer and BioNTech will sell their mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine to the U.S. government at an estimated cost of $19.50 per shot..." https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-biontech-s-u-s-su...

That’s surprisingly cheap. Are they breaking even at that price?

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#100
I wonder if any of the other vaccine candidates offer 100% protection, or near it at least? Still, if everyone got this vaccine, then the infectiousness of the virus would be decimated, so if currently every infected person infects 5 people, in a vaccinated population they would instead infect 0.5 people, causing the pandemic to decline instead of accelerate exponentially like it does now.
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