If I was iSH developer and I wanted to fuck with Apple I would make iSH run in WASM and browser. Good luck banning that desktop shortcut.
About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store
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Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store
#82This isn’t sustainable. Software developers can’t build on a foundation that is constantly, capriciously shifting. This on top of the App Store's already-onerous restrictions and the fact that it’s the only practical way to get your software on one of the world's largest computing platforms has already engendered a deep antipathy [1] among Apple developers, and there are no signs it’s getting better. Something has to…
iOS developers have made over a half a trillion dollars over the last decade on this unsustainable, constantly shifting foundation that they hate so much. Makes you wonder why they bother ? Maybe it's because the very rules you say developers hate are the ones users find appealing.
iOS developers have made over a half a trillion dollars over the last decade on this unsustainable, constantly shifting foundation that they hate so much.
I don't know why you think that this comment is relevant given that iSH is free.
Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah. If the current crop of developers leaves the platform then another crop will take their place.
It's about your company values. If you put greed above anything else then you won't get business from me. I try to avoid companies who support Apple.
Ah yes, I too have seen that companies are punished for their greed!
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#84Apple won't allow you to run youtube-dl on your iOS device. Section 2.5.2 is just the excuse. If 2.5.2 didn't cover it, they'd make up another rule to do so.
Apple isn't going to let people sidestep copyright on iOS. It doesn't matter whether youtube-dl or curl or wget have legitimate uses. If they can be used to sidestep copyright, Apple will ban them.
I'm an Apple user. This pisses me off too.
Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store
#85The practice of rigging app store removals as a means of increasing launch-hype is becoming an increasingly utilized marketing technique for apps. The "Hey" e-mail app successfully used this tactic recently. This marketing technique is a form of social engineering and fraud that spurs artificial discourse regarding well-known legal hurdles affecting apps. App developers then re-publish a compliant app that capitalize…
What does a compliant version of iSH look like? I'm not sure this marketing technique applies here as complying would defeat the entire purpose of the application, so it seems like they're just going to let come what may with regards to removal.
Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store
#86This isn’t sustainable. Software developers can’t build on a foundation that is constantly, capriciously shifting. This on top of the App Store's already-onerous restrictions and the fact that it’s the only practical way to get your software on one of the world's largest computing platforms has already engendered a deep antipathy [1] among Apple developers, and there are no signs it’s getting better. Something has to…
They can build on it... developers have been building on it for years and making money doing it. Don't make an app that allows users to run unapproved software. I think that's a pretty clear rule. If your app makes money (directly or indirectly), pay Apple whatever portion of your revenue that Apple demands. I also think that's a pretty clear rule. If there's something that should obviously be regulated out of existe…
Agreed. Nothing wrong with such business model, other than the deception.
Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store
#87> Advanced users are welcome to build iSH themselves—it’s free and open source and always will be!
I mean, the app store fiasco sucks, but at the same time if you're advanced enough to want a command line on an iDevice you're probably advanced enough to do 'git clone', hit the build button in XCode, and do a local install. It's grade school level of difficulty.
Ideally they'd offer a release that you can build and install locally that's full featured and is wholly unfettered by concerns about app store policies.
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#88PSA: You don't actually own your i* devices. You did pay for them but someone else controls them and determines what you get to run on them.
Incorrect. You can do local builds and installs of any code you like.
Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store
#89This isn’t sustainable. Software developers can’t build on a foundation that is constantly, capriciously shifting. This on top of the App Store's already-onerous restrictions and the fact that it’s the only practical way to get your software on one of the world's largest computing platforms has already engendered a deep antipathy [1] among Apple developers, and there are no signs it’s getting better. Something has to…
They can build on it... developers have been building on it for years and making money doing it. Don't make an app that allows users to run unapproved software. I think that's a pretty clear rule. If your app makes money (directly or indirectly), pay Apple whatever portion of your revenue that Apple demands. I also think that's a pretty clear rule. If there's something that should obviously be regulated out of existe…
Absolutely.
As much as I dislike Apple, their ecosystem works for them and their users. Unfortunately the general public isn't aware of the restrictions imposed on them until it matters, like when their screen is broken and they can't pay $$$ for a first party repair.
We need regulation coining and enforcing accurate terminology for the relationship between vendors like Apple and Tesla, and their users. It's not ownership. If I can't run whatever software I want on hardware that I paid for, I don't own the hardware.
Can you imagine if your mattress didn't work with third party bed frames? Or pillows?
Re: About iSH’s pending removal from the App Store
#90The practice of rigging app store removals as a means of increasing launch-hype is becoming an increasingly utilized marketing technique for apps. The "Hey" e-mail app successfully used this tactic recently. This marketing technique is a form of social engineering and fraud that spurs artificial discourse regarding well-known legal hurdles affecting apps. App developers then re-publish a compliant app that capitalize…
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