Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.
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Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.
#482Personally I think we are watching the slow death of the USA. May be from France I am not getting all the subtle details about the situation on the ground but the country seems to be completely divided. There is almost nothing now that holds America coherent as a country. It has too much variance to form a sensible cluster. It went from a basically almost racially homogeneous, English speaking, Christian - with a lot…
At no point in America's history was it ideologically united. It was divided from the very beginning; our founding document itself was the product of a compromise between two mutually exclusive governmental ideals.
There is more in common on many points between Estonia and Ireland than between California and Arkansas.
I doubt that very much. Arkansans and Californians speak the same language, eat the same food, watch the same shows and movies, listen to the same music, learn the same history. There are ideological differences, sure, but those ideological differences are the same as you see in other countries, including Estonia and Ireland.
Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.
#483Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.
#484On the data nerd side I continue to be shocked at how people misinterpret the certainty of polls/forecasts. Forecasts give us probability distributions based on historical polling error data. Not infallible predictions the expected value will 100% happen. It’s fairly revealing of society’s general innumeracy, just as it was 4 years ago when Trump won.
if you're a data nerd, how can you NOT be shocked by so many results falling far outside the confidence interval (often multiple sigmas), and all in the same direction?
Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.
#485To me what this election (as well as the 2016 election) illustrates, is what a poor set of choices we have had. In no sane world should it have been difficult for the Democrats to defeat Donald Trump in 2016. He had no history in political office, and he lost the popular vote to just about the worst candidate the Democrats could have put up. Had the Democrats put up anyone who was less divisive than Hillary Clinton t…
To compare Clinton, who had been a senator and Secretary of State, and cast her as a bad choice compared to a billionaire heir and reality tv star who had no experience is sort of absurd. Politics is a popularity contest and heavily influenced by media and irrational thoughts and behavior.
Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.
#486To me what this election (as well as the 2016 election) illustrates, is what a poor set of choices we have had. In no sane world should it have been difficult for the Democrats to defeat Donald Trump in 2016. He had no history in political office, and he lost the popular vote to just about the worst candidate the Democrats could have put up. Had the Democrats put up anyone who was less divisive than Hillary Clinton t…
Out of the 20 candidates, Biden was the most likely to defeat Trump. He is a realist compared to the other candidates. People realized that and voted for him. If Bernie was chosen as the candidate, Trump would have won a second term. The bet panned out.
I feel it’s so easy to live in a Democratic bubble in Washington state. I guess same goes to California. Middle America thinks in a very very different way than we do.
Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.
#487To me what this election (as well as the 2016 election) illustrates, is what a poor set of choices we have had. In no sane world should it have been difficult for the Democrats to defeat Donald Trump in 2016. He had no history in political office, and he lost the popular vote to just about the worst candidate the Democrats could have put up. Had the Democrats put up anyone who was less divisive than Hillary Clinton t…
Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.
#488What is really keeping me up at night is the existential problem the US faces for the next 50 years: the ever increasingly large divide that is the polarizing of the electorate. We have to come together as Americans or someone will divide and conquer us.
We’re actually at an inflection point where before white men were the elite, no question, that was what it took to get in the door outside a few congressional districts.
Now it’s still mostly that but it takes more, and due to demographic shifts it will be that less and less. The right — belatedly (far too little far too late, and quite awkwardly) — has already started outreach to Latino and black communities. They will continue but it will take a while (what an embarrassment for the party of Lincoln. FFS.).
Obama was a lighting strike to those who assumed it would always be the old way, and Trump was the response to Obama.
Fortunately, that failed (unfortunately it took hundreds of thousands of dead Americans to convince enough Michiganders, Wisconsinites, Pennsylvanians (I’m sure about “Michiganders”, being one myself, no idea on the others) but at least it happened.)
The left, quite cleverly, responded with Biden, an old white guy in the classic mold. Literally: nothing to fear here, white peeps... but with Kamala as VP — a powerless position yet a powerful symbol (especially as the VP of a VP cum President).
So It’s the changing of the guard. Republicans can no longer simply ignore black and brown people (at best) or use them as bugaboos (and then Democrats won’t be able to simply count on their votes by not actively being racist). Once the powerful engage those groups they’ll find them not to be uniform, and (hopefully) that will lead to meaningful, nuanced, deep engagement... if that happens, there will no longer be such a thing as the “black vote”. (This is further along with Latinos, where some groups aren’t too overwhelmingly for one party or the other).
So...
Not really an existential crisis, at least not to my mind. It’s real progress. We can no longer force certain groups into blocks based on whether we actively believe they should be subjugated or just kinda ignore them.
Hallelujah.
Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.
#489To me what this election (as well as the 2016 election) illustrates, is what a poor set of choices we have had. In no sane world should it have been difficult for the Democrats to defeat Donald Trump in 2016. He had no history in political office, and he lost the popular vote to just about the worst candidate the Democrats could have put up. Had the Democrats put up anyone who was less divisive than Hillary Clinton t…
I weigh more on the culture side, and I'm abhorred that institutions can blatantly teach racism like critical race theory, which discriminates an entire race. I don't believe ACAB. I'm disgusted that Pelosi thinks that people can topple statues if they want, and AOC says "Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? ", and the media kept spreading hoaxes like "fine people on both sides". I certainly don't agree that different political views should be moralized. Well, none that that matters now, I guess. American people have decided that left view is what they want, and we should respect and accept the decision.