Netflix Targets Critical ‘Cuties’ Tweets with Copyright Takedown Requests

Post by Natsu » Thu, Nov 05, 2020, 5:31 PM UTC

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #32

saurik wrote: post #5

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And the punishment to Netflix once you win in court is just damages (good luck showing any actual serious large damages here) and legal costs... there should be a massive fine and a loss of DMCA Section 512 expedited takedown privileges if you use it incorrectly.

Declare your billable rate in the counternotice as $1000/hr and use that as a basis for compensatory damages.

Post by croes » Thu, Nov 05, 2020, 5:42 PM UTC

bobthechef wrote: post #21

michaelt wrote: post #9

The changes between the French and American posters for 'Cuties' [1] seem like a pretty obvious attempt to manufacture controversy under the "no such thing as bad publicity" approach to marketing. And it's worked, in a sense: It wouldn't be on the front page of HN otherwise. If Netflix have got more controversy than they intended to, this seems like a pretty clear case of play stupid games, win stupid prizes. [1] htt…

Controversy or a move to normalize the sexualization of children? Some claim the latter. Generally speaking, film is a powerful medium through which things are normalized. Think of the shows and film that helped normalize homosexuality or promiscuity and shaped attitudes toward sex and sexuality (often through humor; levity is a powerful tool). They worked. There doesn't need to be a conspiracy to make this happen, j…

Post by croes » Thu, Nov 05, 2020, 5:46 PM UTC

cutitout wrote: post #59

pavlov wrote: post #56

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> "it's about the content, about the minute long close up shots of children 'grinding'" This is not the right criterion to evaluate a film's intent. Action movies spend most of their screen time showing killing. Horror movies contain extended torture scenes. Gaspar Noé's "Irreversible" has a 10-minute extremely realistic rape scene, but it would be absurd to claim that it's a pro-rape film.

I said the intention is irrelevant. As I said in the bit you quoted, it's about the content.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 05, 2020, 5:49 PM UTC

ballenf wrote: post #45

blendergeek wrote: post #2

> Legally the company is allowed to do this of course, as they own the rights. Isn't this textbook fair use? Nothing about these clips being shared on Twitter replaces the viewing experience of Cuties. The tweets are definitely transformative and provide a critique of the film. Doesn't copyright law explicitly permit this use of copyrighted works?

If Netflix' position is that the most provocative clips or screenshots reduce the market for the film, doesn't this undermine their claim that the prurient aspect of the film is secondary to the commentary portion? To put it another way, Netflix is taking a position closer to Playboy than the Discovery Channel in terms of the positioning of the film. It is relatively harder to argue fair use in the use of Playboy ima…

Post by Igelau » Thu, Nov 05, 2020, 6:08 PM UTC

yaypolitics wrote: post #28

vmception wrote: post #23

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I don’t really buy the controversy I found that movie to be the lamest and most cringeworthy material and couldn’t watch more than 2 minutes of some of the clips The people complaining about it seem to have their own discomfort that they project onto a phantom pedophile Has anyone noticed that? Actual pedophiles have plenty of actual explicit material from that age group and the older teenagers that could still land…

> The people complaining about it seem to have their own discomfort that they project onto a phantom pedophile Ah yes, the old “people who have a problem with pedophilia are the real pedophiles”