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> It's like complaining that the initial Linux release doesn't support x86... Linus didn't write it for x86 originally. What the hell is this nonsense? Linus was working on a terminal program for his 386 with native x86 task switching and that's the origin story of Linux. It's clearly recorded on the wikipedia page for the kernel, and he speaks to this in Just For Fun IIRC.
Hmmm I misremembered it then. Thanks for pointing this out. My general point still stands though. His initial Linux announcement E-Mail has this line: > It is NOT portable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's all I have :-(. So it wasn't very portable at the start. If you complained about it not being portable to different arches (idk which one…
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Re: DahliaOS operating system, combining the best of GNU/Linux and Fuchsia OS
#52The core benefits of fuchsia are the kernel architecture and the security model it allows. If you're using linux for the kernel you have inherently done away with the primary advantage of fuchsia.
I looked briefly at the homepage but the actual architecture was not obvious even though their webpage was "pretty".
Can someone explain what it is they've done in a nice easy TLDR form?
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These guys used to be on the Fuchsia subreddit fairly frequently. They were definitely far from experienced or professional. IIRC, the founder is very young and was very much a beginner to OS development.
Hi this is Camden, yeah I'm pretty young. I was very new to OS development. Some of us aren't the most experienced at this kind of stuff, but we're doing pretty well I think for what we can do. A lot of my stuff is learning about kernel development and is mostly what I do. I do a lot with porting devices to fuchsia, and tinkering with the zircon kernel. Thats mostly it.
Re: DahliaOS operating system, combining the best of GNU/Linux and Fuchsia OS
#54What is it taking from fuchsia? The core benefits of fuchsia are the kernel architecture and the security model it allows. If you're using linux for the kernel you have inherently done away with the primary advantage of fuchsia. I looked briefly at the homepage but the actual architecture was not obvious even though their webpage was "pretty". Can someone explain what it is they've done in a nice easy TLDR form?
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I opened the link. The only thing spoken to my screen reader was "enable accessibility". I pressed the button (it didn't accept space bar, but only enter) and it just announced an empty page. I can't speak to the qualities of the os, but hopefully this won't be the entire a11y experience both on the website and on the os itself if both use flutter.
Yeah, sorry about the performance. We kinda put that together as an impromptu web demo, like the old ubuntu tour. Flutter for the web is super sucky right now, and lacks a lot of things like accessibility and normal text interaction because it is backed by a canvas element. Ideally as Flutter matures we will be able to improve both the performance and accessibility aspect of it.
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I think the skepticism and criticism of this project is reasonable, given the marketing. Look at it: https://dahliaos.io/ > a modern, secure, lightweight and responsive operating system, combining the best of GNU/Linux and Fuchsia OS The initial announcement and first couple years of development of linux had no logo or website or anything. Let's compare: > a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and pro…
That's perfectly understandable, I even feel that I went a little too "slick marketing" with the website, but I have extremely high, maybe even too high goals for the project.
I don't know your project in particular so I don't know if this is what you are doing, but I agree with ploxiln in that it is a general trend nowadays.
Re: DahliaOS operating system, combining the best of GNU/Linux and Fuchsia OS
#59How can they release it under the Apache license (which I applaud) if they use the Linux kernel which is GPL- I always thought those two licenses are incompatible (because of the restrictiveness of the GPL)
The builds are not neccessarily licensed, Fuchsia is Apache, and our source is Apache, I'm not quite sure legally about the final product of it. The underlying Linux system is licensed under various licenses, which are provided with the system. We release the GPL bits under the GPL, and the Apache bits under Apache 2.0, in addition to the other third party components which have miscellaneous licenses.
https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/fuchsia/+/refs/heads/master...
Re: DahliaOS operating system, combining the best of GNU/Linux and Fuchsia OS
#60It also seems to combine the worst of both platforms: Apps. Is there any OSDEV work that goes towards a more integrated, component-based architecture? As sad as it seems, Unix tools & pipes seems to be the most successful and enduring attempt in that direction. Systems doing that on a language basis seem mostly dead (Lisps, Smalltalks, Oberons), component architecture isn't doing much (OpenDoc as the prime example, C…