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Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by jiofih »

Uberphallus wrote: post #112
krageon wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except these problems don't occur for most people, as evidenced by the fact that the current system works fine. Complaints like yours are relatively rare.

I've had all RPi versions except RPi4, running at least 1 of them 24/7 since the first one was released, and by the first year I had a cron that dd'd the card every night, and I found myself dding the backup image at least 2-3 times per year. RPi3+ has had no problem so far, and I'm not upgrading to RPi4 out of fear of it becoming an unstable mess again.

Schools are not running 24/7 servers from them.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by varispeed »

JustFinishedBSG wrote: post #100
ejolto wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like you're not the target audience for a RPi. They are meant to be cheap computers for "the promotion of teaching basic computer science in schools and in developing countries"[0]. Adding NVMe support would increase the price. There are alternatives to RPi that do what you want, odroid-h2plus for example. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

Or you know there's this thing called eMMC that's mostly pin compatible with SD cards and yet provide fast, resilient and cheap storage.

I had devices with eMMC and can't remember any of them being "fast" and "reliable".

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by pbronez »

qz2 wrote: post #59

Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.

NVMe hats are available for less than $50

Geekworm Raspberry Pi 4 X872 M.2 NVMe SSD Expansion Board Compatible with Raspberry Pi 4 Model B only, Support X735/X710/X765/X725

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0855T2KFW

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by graycrow »

einpoklum wrote: post #115

So what are the storage medium options for this device? I'm not much of a Pi-guy; some comments mention "eMMC"; can that actually be used? Why and how would it be better than an SD card?

There is no eMMC or other internal storage option on this PC. Just a microSD card slot and USB.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by hda111 »

qz2 wrote: post #59

Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.

2021 Compute Module 4 will have NVMe storage.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by filleokus »

qz2 wrote: post #59

Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.

FWIW: Now you can get raw PCI-E access with the Compute Module [0] + IO Board [1], allowing you to put a SSD on there over a robust interface.

But yeah, I would also love this to be built in on something like the RPI. Closest option according to my research is probably the Rock Pi, but then it's not really straight forward to boot from it etc...

[0]: https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/compute-module-4/ [1]: https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/compute-module-4-io-boa...

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by varispeed »

bencollier49 wrote: post #11

This tugs all the heartstrings for me as it mimics the computers of the early 80s. My only criticism is that their use of micro-HDMI makes it very easy for children to wreck the machine. I've had this happen twice to me on RPi4s, and it's not a terribly pleasant experience. Now all I want from them is a custom edition with the function keys in red, the rest in black, and the body in beige.

I can't understand the reason why this port even was invented. The cables I have seen are few times bigger than the connector itself, so there is a lot of pressure and tension being applied on that tiny port. Only thing I can think of is saving some PCB space, but if they put more effort into arranging components, then I am sure full size port would fit nicely.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by hda111 »

pbronez wrote: post #123
qz2 wrote: post #59

Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.

NVMe hats are available for less than $50 Geekworm Raspberry Pi 4 X872 M.2 NVMe SSD Expansion Board Compatible with Raspberry Pi 4 Model B only, Support X735/X710/X765/X725 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0855T2KFW

It's still USB storage. It's theoretically possible to solder a PCIe ssd on the Raspberry Pi 4. At the cost of USB 3 support.
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