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Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by dragonwriter »

sytelus wrote: post #80

Gosh... if they had made this as box that connects to display and talks to any bluetooth keyboard then this would be gold. Requiring wired keyboard is such a let down and limiting. I would then connect it to my 4K smart TV and also use it as full blown computer! With dedicated app, it can turn any TV to smart TV, picture frame etc with unlimited customizations. It would be like Chromecast on steroids, open programmab…

> Gosh... if they had made this as box that connects to display and talks to any bluetooth keyboard then this would be gold.

That's basically the existing RPi desktop kit minus keyboard/mouse (RPi, case, power supply, HDMI cable) — it does bluetooth OOB. Which you have been able to get for a long time.

So, they already did it. This is a new, extra thing.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by x3ro »

boltefnovor wrote: post #71
yreg wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the goal to provide an affordable computer to those who currently can not afford one? Instead of selling a cool collectible…

Is affordability the goal? I thought inspiration was.

> Inspired by the home computers of the 1980s, our mission is to put affordable, high-performance, programmable computers into the hands of people all over the world.

Pretty sure affordability is a goal.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by mekkkkkk »

tmhrtly wrote: post #74
mekkkkkk wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a straight conversion, parent poster refers to GB/EU pricing of the product. A straight conversion would be ~54£. I did a double take as well, and had to look it up.

However US pricing is normally exclusive of tax whereas the U.K. price is inclusive of 20% VAT. 54*1.2 is around £65 so not that far off the £67 price.

I did not know that. So when ordering stuff in the US, the tax is added at the checkout stage? Is it because of state tax laws being different or something?

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by chaos_a »

qz2 wrote: post #84
krageon wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except these problems don't occur for most people, as evidenced by the fact that the current system works fine. Complaints like yours are relatively rare.

Rubbish. They do. My daughter's school has a pile of knackered Pi's that the teachers don't have the time and budget to fix. Broken connectors, duff microSDs, bricks. They don't use them now, preferring python on windows.

sounds like people simply weren't taking any care of them, that's why they broke. If they had cases and decent sd cards that probably wouldn't have happened.

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by bonzini »

ejolto wrote: post #62
qz2 wrote: post #59

Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.

Sounds like you're not the target audience for a RPi. They are meant to be cheap computers for "the promotion of teaching basic computer science in schools and in developing countries"[0]. Adding NVMe support would increase the price. There are alternatives to RPi that do what you want, odroid-h2plus for example. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

The RPi4 SoC already has PCIe support; it's used for the USB controller, but it wouldn't be impossible to have a version that has an M.2 PCIe slot. It could be used for NVMe, WWAN or faster Ethernet.

USB could remain available through USB OTG and it would sit in the middle between the RPi4 and the Compute Module 4. Using the USB power socket for OTG is doable already on the Pi4, but to do it in a fully supported way would need some extra components to properly handle USB-C configuration. Still cheaper than an H2plus

Re: Raspberry Pi 400 Desktop PC

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Post by JustFinishedBSG »

ejolto wrote: post #62
qz2 wrote: post #59

Can we please have a Pi without a crappy storage interface. It's either a microSD card or something dangling off USB. An M2 SATA or NVMe would make this credible but 99% of the problems I've had with the Pi platform is storage related, either being knackered microSD cards, terrible performance or USB power problems.

Sounds like you're not the target audience for a RPi. They are meant to be cheap computers for "the promotion of teaching basic computer science in schools and in developing countries"[0]. Adding NVMe support would increase the price. There are alternatives to RPi that do what you want, odroid-h2plus for example. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi

Or you know there's this thing called eMMC that's mostly pin compatible with SD cards and yet provide fast, resilient and cheap storage.
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