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Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Please do explain how taking 400mg of caffeine per day constitutes an addiction. I also take a daily multivitamin that contains ginseng, and a 'super' vitamin B pill. The latter makes the biggest difference in energy levels. I guess I'm 'addicted' to vitamin B, as well.

Please do explain how taking 400mg of caffeine per day constitutes an addiction. I also take a daily multivitamin that contains ginseng, and a 'super' vitamin B pill. The latter makes the biggest difference in energy levels. I guess I'm 'addicted' to vitamin B, as well. I would say the difference between addiction and supplementation is not in what you take , but rather what happens if you do not take it. I'm supplem…

Now would you be able to forget your caffeine?

Yes, of course I can, and do. Why would you assume that I'm somehow dependent upon caffeine?

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Where where you living at the time? I am from Sydney, and I have been told by friends from other states that the food prices here are much higher than anywhere else: even Melbourne (for non-aussies: a similarly sized city - 4 mil inhabitants vs 4.5 mil in Sydney).

Living in Ryde, Sydney. Veg like carrots are a good way to get full for not much. We found it was also helpful to have a weekend budget where you could treat yourself. Keeps you sane.

Very impressed that you could survive on so little. Its inspired me to look into orgainsing something similar in the coming week.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Wow, the amount of protein in this diet is really low. And all those carbs may not be for everyone. This diet may be cheap, but not healthy. If you are the type of person who puts on weight easily (like me), than I would suggest doing 50% to 60%+ of your calories from protein and 20% or less from carbs. The easiest source of protein are white eggs (in a carton), chicken (pre-cooked), beans (get low sodium), and prote…

Back when our diet was 54% carbs and 12.6% fats & oils, we were a lot thinner than today (43% carbs, 24% fats & oils). https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnpp.usd...

Back when our diet was 54% carbs and 12.6% fats & oils, we were a lot thinner than today (43% carbs, 24% fats & oils).

I'd say there's too much fixation on "carbs" and "fats" and too little on the source. Would you agree that eating a fresh apple gives a different effect compared on eating a couple of teaspoonfuls of white sugar, even if the carb and caloric content is equal? I wish there was a breakdown for the source of micronutrients somewhere.

And of course, the total amount of calories and sedentary lifestyles contribute greatly to people being overweight.

But what does contribute to the growth in rates of cancer, diabetes, heart diseas and other "diseases of civilisation"? This is not so easily answered by just breaking down the food by carbs/fats/protein.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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>I can vaporize cannabis for two months straight and stop all of the sudden without so much as a thought. Now, I have little personal experience, and I'm not an expert; but I /have/ seen people lose their jobs due to their performance being diminished because of habitual marijuana use. I've never seen anyone lose a job because of caffeine. I mean, I know plenty of people who use marijuana occasionally on the weekends…

>but it's certainly more harmful than Caffeine. I'd love to see that claim backed up by one iota of science. Considering it takes less to overdose on caffeine, caffeine has actual chemical withdrawl symptoms, that cannabis has numerous anti-cancer properties that are acknowledged by everyone (including the governmental organizations tasked with analyzing it, etc) except the US government, etc. You're still missing th…

wait, what? first, I didn't downvote you. Even if I could, I would not; and I can't. the downvote button doesn't exist for posts that are responses to mine. Next, I'm not arguing that caffeine is not a habit forming drug. It obviously is habit forming. What I'm trying to say is that because the side effects are so mild, it's not that big of a deal that it is habit forming. Next, I'm not saying people who use a certain drug are 'bad people' - just that some drugs carry higher levels of risk than others, and I believe that caffeine has a very low risk of causing serious problems, even though it is habit forming.

Now, you seemed to think that the guy ought to kick his caffeine habit, which would suggest that you think there are some dangers or other serious downsides to caffeine dependency, which is why I'm addressing that. If you do have evidence for serious side effects to caffeine use, please do cite references. As far as I can tell, caffeine just isn't a very dangerous drug when consumed in anything like the usual quantities, and the side effects are fairly mild for most people.

You seemed to suggest that marijuana is better than Caffeine because it is less habit forming. My point was that marijuana has some major risks associated with it; even if it's not habit forming at all, and my observations (that heavy users of marijuana tend to have significant and long-term loss of productivity) are mere coincidence and the stuff is completely safe from a pharmaceutical standpoint, there are very serious legal dangers associated with obtaining and using marijuana.

Now, maybe we are just talking past oneanother, but I'm not seeing how you are going from what I'm saying to "I'm a good person"

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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It should be balanced as far as macronutrient ratios go (you can change the ratios in one of the dropdowns), but the proportions of macros you want may change based on your goals. The default 50/25/25 split should be good if you're trying to build muscle, and with weight loss, you'll probably want fewer carbs and a higher fat/protein proportion. I'll add some presets at some point to make it more straightforward. Asi…

I've been looking for something like this for ages, thank you. Do you mind if I have /r/Fitness link to it? Also, it seems it's going down a bit too frequently, have you thought of moving it to AppEngine?

I posted it to /r/Fitness a while ago for some feedback, and their number one complaint was the food choices. I'll probably add a bunch more foods this weekend and repost it there.

I haven't actually noticed it go down ever. Are you sure it's not on your end? If not, I'll definitely look into AppEngine. I've never actually used anything other than cheap shared hosting so it should be a good learning experience.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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I've been looking for something like this for ages, thank you. Do you mind if I have /r/Fitness link to it? Also, it seems it's going down a bit too frequently, have you thought of moving it to AppEngine?

I posted it to /r/Fitness a while ago for some feedback, and their number one complaint was the food choices. I'll probably add a bunch more foods this weekend and repost it there. I haven't actually noticed it go down ever. Are you sure it's not on your end? If not, I'll definitely look into AppEngine. I've never actually used anything other than cheap shared hosting so it should be a good learning experience.

I can help you with that, if you need help. It seems to be all static, so your best bet is to use static-appengine-hoster, which I developed:

http://blog.stochastictechnologies.com/easily-host-multiple-...

It should only take a three-line change or so to let you host it on GAE. Feel free to email me if you need any help with it or anything, and use wwwizer.com to get the www record.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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>but it's certainly more harmful than Caffeine. I'd love to see that claim backed up by one iota of science. Considering it takes less to overdose on caffeine, caffeine has actual chemical withdrawl symptoms, that cannabis has numerous anti-cancer properties that are acknowledged by everyone (including the governmental organizations tasked with analyzing it, etc) except the US government, etc. You're still missing th…

wait, what? first, I didn't downvote you. Even if I could, I would not; and I can't. the downvote button doesn't exist for posts that are responses to mine. Next, I'm not arguing that caffeine is not a habit forming drug. It obviously is habit forming. What I'm trying to say is that because the side effects are so mild, it's not that big of a deal that it is habit forming. Next, I'm not saying people who use a certai…

You're defending caffeine use. Please show me one place where I suggested he should stop or sad that using caffeine was bad. In fact, I've gone out of my way half a dozen times to suggest the opposite.

All I did was ask why, rather than replace coffee with caffeine, he didn't simply kick caffeine all together.

Heh, legal dangers aren't probably as severe a concern as dangers during acquisition. I would suggest that anyone using cannabis at work is as dumb as anyone drinking at work. If you want to light up after work, I don't really see how that affects your performance at work. You don't get a hangover from cannabis use.

Maybe my tone conveyed otherwise, but I was really just curious as to why it was easier for the (parent, parent, parent) comment to keep using caffeine in a different form if he didn't enjoy drinking coffee.

I guess I'm still surprised at the ease of which people can ween themselves off of what I would call large doses of it. But that skepticism really isn't fair of me, especially considering peoples' default opinion of cannabis use and how much all of my experiences and friends' experiences differ from the typical stoner stereotype.

I am curious now though, when you say "heavy users tend to have long-term loss of productivity", is that even when at work, not high? Is that even after they've stopped smoking for long periods of time? Because even anecdotally, I've never really heard of that. I mean, I ditched a friend because he was addicted to pot. He was addicted to cigarettes and drinking and attention and designer glasses and he used people to get his way so I don't really think cannabis was the root issue, but I'm surprised to hear of people in the tech industry experiencing people that suffer as a result of use.

Oh well, I'm way off topic. tl;dr, I think we were talking past each other, more just making different points. Sorry for any attitude I had earlier. It's no excuse but it's been a long day, had some major presentations going on.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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I'm surprised you found eggs to be expensive. Where I'm at (Eugene, OR), you can find eggs for $7 for 5 dozen -- an incredible deal per nutrient dollar, even on your extreme budget. (This is at the Red Apple, if any Eugene locals are curious.)

Are cheap those eggs laid by anaemic, malnourished battery hens who are given growth steroids/antibiotics though? I realise that it is possible to find good deals direct from farmers but those prices sound insane! Personally eggs and meat are things I will pay the extra for the animals to be free range and fed a natural diet, and I eat a lot less of them. With a diet such as the one in the post such things can become…

Yeah, I'd have to wonder about the conditions of the chickens with eggs that cheap too. These don't advertise as cage-free or anything like that.

Unfortunately, "very cheap" and "humanely, sustainably raised" seem to be in conflict. Terrible factory farming is efficient.

:-/

I get a lot of my eggs from my friends mother, who has something like six chickens running around on her farm. It's a great feeling to know exactly where your food is coming from (and fresh eggs are mucho-delicious).

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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I posted it to /r/Fitness a while ago for some feedback, and their number one complaint was the food choices. I'll probably add a bunch more foods this weekend and repost it there. I haven't actually noticed it go down ever. Are you sure it's not on your end? If not, I'll definitely look into AppEngine. I've never actually used anything other than cheap shared hosting so it should be a good learning experience.

I can help you with that, if you need help. It seems to be all static, so your best bet is to use static-appengine-hoster, which I developed: http://blog.stochastictechnologies.com/easily-host-multiple-... It should only take a three-line change or so to let you host it on GAE. Feel free to email me if you need any help with it or anything, and use wwwizer.com to get the www record.

Awesome! I'll definitely look into it this weekend

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Gary Taubes is a journalist, not an expert in nutrition. He also has a track record of questionable academic honesty. He's an excellent writer who has cashed in fabulously on fad diets, particularly the Atkins craze 10 years ago. Follow his advice at your own risk. http://reason.com/archives/2003/03/01/big-fat-fake

I've started reading this hit piece, and saw, e.g. > "One can lose weight on a low-calorie diet if it is primarily composed of fat calories or carbohydrate calories or protein calories. It makes no difference!" Quoted from one of the "experts" refuting taubes. And yet, research by Robert Israel and Michel Cabanac (full list of references in Roberts' "What Makes Food Fattening" bibliography) shows that this is complet…

Taubes is a quack, pure and simple. Most of the studies he cites that I'm familiar with use self reported food intake. Any study that uses self reported food intake should be entirely disregarded for physiological purposes (perhaps useful for studying psychology).

You can get razor sharp lean on a diet with lots of carbs in it and you can get nice and fat on a ketogenic diet.

No controlled calorie study supports the idea that carbs, fats or proteins have any particular metabolic advantage over the minor differences in their thermic effects of feeding (TEF) (essentially energy required to digest).

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