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We’re going to fight fascism, and if you don’t agree with us we’ll burn your house down. America in a nutshell.
Fighting "fascisms" with fascism... I find it entirely bizarre that so large scope of population and media is fine with what is going on...
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All major political leaders were against gay marriage at some point. The Clintons, Obama, Biden, etc. As for GWB .... > George W. Bush's Forgotten Gay-Rights History > He defied his party by endorsing civil unions in 2004. (But that same year, he backed a constitutional amendment forbidding same-sex marriage. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/george-...
Was Trump?
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There's plenty of political views so toxic and harmful they don't deserve civility. An easy litmus test: are you advocating harm to a person for merely existing in the world, living with the skin color and sexuality they were born with, or making choices that don't harm anyone else? Then I have no interest in hearing your toxic and hateful opinion and I sure hope you'll be afraid to voice it around me. It's a great t…
I would completely stand behind this comment if the word "harm" wasn't completely redefined in the last few years. Just in case: speech, however abusive, or denial of association or services is never "harm". Replying to a deleted comment: I think that white-only service is asshole behavior, just as holocaust denial and other stuff. I fight and would continue to fight it with education, counter-propaganda and civil bo…
Why wouldn’t you be? The way that people react these days is so all over the place that it’s a no win situation unless you’re talking about financial/economic policy.
Even financial/economic policies are very difficult to discuss openly.
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It must be kind of difficult to have representation for moderate views when they only have two political parties.
Exactly. The US needs more mainstream political parties.
And this is why it's so important to maintain basic civility to everyone, regardless of political views.
There's plenty of political views so toxic and harmful they don't deserve civility. An easy litmus test: are you advocating harm to a person for merely existing in the world, living with the skin color and sexuality they were born with, or making choices that don't harm anyone else? Then I have no interest in hearing your toxic and hateful opinion and I sure hope you'll be afraid to voice it around me. It's a great t…
But i feel that on the long term the list of ”too wrong to discuss” opinion tends to grow, until you reach the point where civil and peacefull discussion becomes impossible.
To me it seems this is the road U.S. is walking on.
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I dont think that's quite fair, basic civility would mean not immediately trying to frame something you disagree with as denying basic rights, and trying to have a more practical discussion about the issues.
I'm not referring to framing something ambiguous. I mean for example people openly discussing final solution to Jew problem. Are you suggesting basic civility and discussion about the issue with them?
We're talking about people not feeling comfortable having a debate over abortion (it's a third rail on either side to try and establish a time when a foetus becomes a recognized being). This is something we should be curious to establish a benchmark for. Both sides fear that if we establish a number of days at which then we can't have abortions after and the other side fears we can have abortions before)
we're posting Cato Institute links now?
TIL "As censor, [Cato] tried to save Rome's ancestral customs and combat "degenerate" Hellenistic influences." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_the_Elder
We’re going to fight fascism, and if you don’t agree with us we’ll burn your house down. America in a nutshell.
Fighting "fascisms" with fascism... I find it entirely bizarre that so large scope of population and media is fine with what is going on...
I reserve the term “violence” to situations described in Hannah Arendt‘s similarly-named essay, in which terroristic violence has historically been used by failing dictators against the legitimate power of the people as a whole.