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- Only very few have the temperament and external motivation to practice with SRS.
- Learning by reading texts reinforces vocabulary at exactly the right strength: you learn the more common words sooner.
Outside of learning a language are there many times that wrote memorization is useful? I can't think how I would use this in a software development sense. Coding katas come close to this and a useful but I'm not sure flash cards would do the same. Maybe it would be handy to memorize a libraries API but then if I use something enough that memorization would be useful I'll learn it by way of using it.
I think we've all found ourselves looking up a command line option for that one bash utility for the upteenth time. Throw it in a flash card and never look it up again. The same with text editor shortcuts, API's, etc. My shop teacher would tell us to write down when we needed to borrow a tool. If we had to borrow a tool twice, it was time to go and buy it. I think the same rule is useful for spaced repetition. Even i…
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I use Anki on desktop because it lets me type 1000x faster than on a phone. Hugely important for Cloze cards and language learning. It really isn't even a comparison...the mobile app is only useful if I'm on the go and have a minute to do some cards. An hour on the desktop version will let you do hundreds, even thousands of cards, while mobile is maybe a hundred, tops, assuming you want to stare at your phone that lo…
There isn't anything to type; just buttons to hit.
SRS is the classic technical user situation. Anki looks like it’s from 1995 and has a massive initial learning curve with specialized vocabulary to learn (Cloze, decks, etc.) When it’s advertised, the copy is overly technical and confusing to the average person. Just look at SuperMemo’s home page, for an example: https://www.supermemo.com/en To get widespread SRS adoption, two things need to happen: 1. The primary so…
When I first got into Linux I was like this. I regret it, now I very rarely recommend someone to try it and almost never help them set it up. I guest most people here understand why, tfa is very recognizable to me. Now 20 years later I run all my infrastructure from my basement, no cloud dependency for me, my OS does not spy on me and all tools I need for day to day life are Free... Freedom!!! See I proved them wrong…
Same experience.
But now I found having a cynical mentality is actually liberating, it allowed me to mostly ignore arguments and holy wars among people regarding to the platforms I'm using. I can only say, "It's simply my personal preference, and I fully accept any good or bad consequences of my choices. Talk to me only if you are genuinely interested." Now my main computer is not even running a standard distro anymore, but QubesOS, an experimental security operating system. When I first installed QubesOS, I found I was unable to work on my personal projects because some features I needed was missing. Instead of writing an angry blogpost (it sucks!) or defending my choice (this view is unfair for a project with limited resources!), I immediately cloned the git repository and spent a week hacking the source code to make it work for me without saying anything. Objectively, is it a good user experience? Not at all, but I'm personally okay with that, and hacking code is much more enjoyable than advocating the platform in an argument.
I guess this mentality is not good for encouraging improvements, and I fully respect those who choose to actively engage, but for me, I need to have a rest.
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> if you really think SR is the best thing ever, don't argue with people - prove us wrong. Prove you wrong how? By learning things with it? Plenty of people already have used SR to pass tests, aid in learning a language, etc. There are scientific papers that show SR to be an effective learning tool. I really don't get what you're asking for. It's not like SR learning is going to let you "unleash your strength on the…
> Prove you wrong how? By learning things with it? The author of the article is specifically struggling with his evangelism. He says he thinks the world would be a better place if everyone used spaced repetition. I don't know (can't imagine honestly) what sort of utopia he envisions, but he needs to show instead of tell. Just like I need to. It's so insanely hard to lead people. I think the only thing that works is t…
Also, you seem to underestimate the importance of having encyclopedic knowledge. I agree that it is not useful to have random facts in your mind, but passive knowledge is extremely important - like even on topics you are not well-informed about, having learnt something about it in the past will put you in a much more open-minded position on it. If people were to remember some really basic biology from high school, they would be much less open to bullshit like “alternative medicine”,anti-vaccines, etc.
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> if you really think SR is the best thing ever, don't argue with people - prove us wrong. Prove you wrong how? By learning things with it? Plenty of people already have used SR to pass tests, aid in learning a language, etc. There are scientific papers that show SR to be an effective learning tool. I really don't get what you're asking for. It's not like SR learning is going to let you "unleash your strength on the…
> Prove you wrong how? By learning things with it? The author of the article is specifically struggling with his evangelism. He says he thinks the world would be a better place if everyone used spaced repetition. I don't know (can't imagine honestly) what sort of utopia he envisions, but he needs to show instead of tell. Just like I need to. It's so insanely hard to lead people. I think the only thing that works is t…
At the same time, learning in most areas requires some memorization. Even if, in terms of knowledge skills, SR only helps directly with the memorization component, there's considerable empirical evidence that it does make that more time efficient. Using it to structure that part of learning allows you, all other things being equal, to reduce the proportion of learning time devoted to memorization.
> SR takes the worst 8th grade history class you ever had and doubles down on it.
Well, SRS maybe. Having first learned about SR in ballroom dance teacher training as a tool for structuring both curriculum for in-person instruction and personal practice, I disagree.
The common usage pattern for spaced repetition software may do that, but spaced repetition is more than just that.
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> if you really think SR is the best thing ever, don't argue with people - prove us wrong. Prove you wrong how? By learning things with it? Plenty of people already have used SR to pass tests, aid in learning a language, etc. There are scientific papers that show SR to be an effective learning tool. I really don't get what you're asking for. It's not like SR learning is going to let you "unleash your strength on the…
> Prove you wrong how? By learning things with it? The author of the article is specifically struggling with his evangelism. He says he thinks the world would be a better place if everyone used spaced repetition. I don't know (can't imagine honestly) what sort of utopia he envisions, but he needs to show instead of tell. Just like I need to. It's so insanely hard to lead people. I think the only thing that works is t…
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Traffic signs musical notation geography history chemistry metallurgy physics healthcare ... This is one of those 'what have the Romans done for us' comments. Intelligence + facts = smarts. Facts are to thinking like fuel is to an engine, without facts your thinking will be either useless or wrong. So regardless of how smart you are some degree of access to facts is a requirement and if you can do this without having…
Actually in history less so. Unless you are learning for some kind of odd test where they will demand ton of exact dates, you are better off learning how events related to each other and how they followed. Hardest parts of physics and chemistry in understanding. Again, you can use flash card memorization here and there, but the first of it is different.
When I first got into Linux I was like this. I regret it, now I very rarely recommend someone to try it and almost never help them set it up. I guest most people here understand why, tfa is very recognizable to me. Now 20 years later I run all my infrastructure from my basement, no cloud dependency for me, my OS does not spy on me and all tools I need for day to day life are Free... Freedom!!! See I proved them wrong…
> See I proved them wrong, they should have gotten into it... Right? Wrong! Nobody cares! Same experience. But now I found having a cynical mentality is actually liberating, it allowed me to mostly ignore arguments and holy wars among people regarding to the platforms I'm using. I can only say, "It's simply my personal preference, and I fully accept any good or bad consequences of my choices. Talk to me only if you a…