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I recently re-watched most of his films as I created a programming language that emits error messages based on his accent[0]. I was unable to find a single film that he was involved in that I did not enjoy. Some actors not only practice their craft well but also only seem to put their stamp on films that are worth the audiences time. [0]Example: "shtirred: filter requiresh a function and a lisht ash input!" - http://…
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Its not misogynistic because it is not related to gender at all. His point is basically: "If some is already verbally abusing you, its fine to resort to light violence if nothing else works". Its actually a point that i disagree personally, because i would just go away. But if you cant understand that verbal abuse can be far far worse than physical, you are probably the one that needs a sensitivity training more than…
I’m sorry but this is in no way a fair characterization of his comments to Barbara Walters. It is specifically brought up in the context of slapping women, and he is quite obviously not talking about slapping in response being verbally abused, not at all. That is an attempt to completely whitewash what he said and the circumstances referring to his earlier quote from Playboy. I am sickened to see this mental gymnasti…
Well maybe we have not seen the same video then. i quote:
"Some women wont leave it alone. They want to have the last word and wheb you give them the last word their are not happy with it and they want to say it again. And they will try to get you into a provocative situation."
Its the litteral definition of gaslighting your partner. Its a litteral case of verbal abuse.
Sure he talks about women but only because the interviewer asks about the provocative idea of "slapping a women", but its the same situation with a guy in a bar that tries to provoke you and it gets physical..
If anyone is sexist here its the interviewer framing the situation as "omg man slapping a woman" to make him look bad, when its just "person who is verbally abused slapping the abuser to make it stop".
Once again i wouldnt personally react like he advocated but he is kilometers away from a spousal abuser. If anything the video ends by saying he never had any trouble with his wife..
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Yes, it is hard because even here in supposedly enlightened and fair minded Hacker News, even just making comments about his unequivocal support for slapping women, it is met with ridiculous downvotes, claims that there’s “a time and a place” to criticize abuse (and that this apparently isn’t it) and various other mental gymnastics that either tacitly support misogyny or try to deflect rightful criticism of misogyny…
> It’s obviously a quick PR filler piece Now that you've made up your mind, anything to the contrary is a conspiracy. Did you actually listen to what Sean said? He starts by saying it's wrong to hit women. He knows it's wrong. What he's saying is if a woman doesn't know when to shut up, they could get themselves slapped and it wasn't beneath him either. He's justifying physical retaliation to verbal abuse. That's ver…
The context here is that a woman can't threaten a man with violence due to being unable to injure or harm the man (I'm excluding stinging for a few seconds from a slap).
Whereas a woman is always at a great disadvantage for defending herself against a man, so if a man hits her, even if it's just a slap, it indicates that he is willing to hit her, and might hit her harder next time causing damage. This context makes the difference between a woman slapping a man versus a man slapping a woman. A similar situation is if a very small child slapped an adult.
Note that my statement isn't comparing women to small children, but to illustrate the role of differences in displays of physical power between two people.
None of the above is me endorsing any sort of violence or physical retribution, but I'm trying to explain most people wouldn't be okay with a woman hitting a man in a way that injures him or causes long term intimidation, but why a slap in a sitcom is accepted.
You cannot die, Highlander! You are immortal!
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Don’t forget he was also an unapologetic advocate of spousal abuse, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mzXkbJwrN38
I'm going to add my reply to be downvoted with the rest of them. There seems to be some unwritten rule that you're only allowed to say good things about people when they die. And I think that rule needs to end. Let's be honest and recognize that people are complex even when they die. Spousal abuse is wrong and people who think it's OK should be called out for that.
It seems to always happen in forums, as here, where some people complain that it's somehow 'too soon' to mention something negative, but it doesn't happen in obituaries, which commonly don't just stick to superficial 'good' aspects of someone's life or career.
In the case of Connery, for example, all of the following, and more, refer to his statements on slapping/abuse:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/31/sir-sean-conner...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sean-connery-dead-james-b...
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/featu...
https://www.latimes.com/obituaries/story/2020-10-31/sean-con...
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/sean-connery-...
I will probably be downvoted to death but I am not particularly impressed by Sean Connery. He wasn’t a bad actor by any means but nothing resonates with me, all known his movies are commercial stints and I couldn’t see any depth to his acting other than the known Sean Connery type we’re familiar with. Actors that weight heavier on my scale are for example Rutger Hauer or Jeremy Irons or even the recently cancelled Ke…
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Any living person can hold a reprehensible point of view, and as much as I may disagree with it, I really can't stand this attitude of writing people off because of a flawed perspective. That doesn't mean I support spousal abuse by association, it means I recognise he has a shitty point of view amongst all of his other flaws, as well as his qualities. There isn't a single person in history that can meet this standard…
Indeed, I think it's a terrible mistake to hold historical figures to modern standards and morals. I'm sure there are things even the best among us do today that could be harshly judged in the future. "Of this I am quite sure, that if we open a quarrel between the past and the present, we shall find that we have lost the future" -- Winston Churchill
I once helped Mr. Connery print something. I was staying at the Beverly Hills Hilton in 2004 during Oscars week. I was in the business center on the Internet (this was the dark ages before ubiquitous hotel WiFi and personal devices.) Someone comes in, and then a few minutes later says in a completely unmistakable voice “Excuse me, do you know how to print this?” I immediately jumped into parental IT support mode, it…
Your story reminds me How did Sean Connery shave? ...same as the rest of us, ctrl-s
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Yes, it is hard because even here in supposedly enlightened and fair minded Hacker News, even just making comments about his unequivocal support for slapping women, it is met with ridiculous downvotes, claims that there’s “a time and a place” to criticize abuse (and that this apparently isn’t it) and various other mental gymnastics that either tacitly support misogyny or try to deflect rightful criticism of misogyny…
> It’s obviously a quick PR filler piece Now that you've made up your mind, anything to the contrary is a conspiracy. Did you actually listen to what Sean said? He starts by saying it's wrong to hit women. He knows it's wrong. What he's saying is if a woman doesn't know when to shut up, they could get themselves slapped and it wasn't beneath him either. He's justifying physical retaliation to verbal abuse. That's ver…
This is an absurd response. Just look at the article - it is emphatically not a retraction or apology. You can’t just claim I’ve become close-minded and therefore dismiss anything else that’s said. That’s just your own close-mindedness.
> “ He starts by saying it's wrong to hit women. He knows it's wrong. What he's saying is if a woman doesn't know when to shut up, they could get themselves slapped and it wasn't beneath him either. He's justifying physical retaliation to verbal abuse.“
This is not what he said at all. This is an attempt by you to whitewash it and cover it with things that are exposing your own misogyny. Framing any behavior Connery ascribed to these hypothetical women that could “cause” him to slap them as “abuse” perpetrated by the women is directly misogynistic by you!
I shudder that I even have to point this out to you - that your own comments here are pretty morally contemptible but you very blindly and very wrongly appear to think you’re representing some sort of higher plane of discourse where you don’t reduce people to binary good or bad characterizations.
> “ Today it's still okay by most for a woman to hit a man. Tomorrow will men get the justice they deserve? Also my 2yo hits me and I have video evidence. Should I hold on to it?”
What point do you think you’re making here? This is borderline incoherent? Are you claiming a two year old hitting you is somehow the same as a world famous movie star going on national TV and saying he thinks it’s ok to slap women? Because there’s no other rhetorical flair to your comment that could make any sense.
> “ If someone needs help, let's help them. Public shaming helps no one.”
This sounds like a true defender of abusers. You sincerely ought to be ashamed of yourself for the position you’re describing.