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Full self driving seems like an app. I think it would be okay to deactivate, but shouldn’t be included in the resale value of the car. Assume over time the capability becomes tuned to the driver, in that case it wouldn’t be the same as transferring it over.
Serf mentality.
So... Don't give your car internet access in the first place, don't connect it to wifi and remove the sim card, problem solved?
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As I understand it, if you buy a non-salvage used car from another individual then the package follows the car. If you buy a salvage car then the package does not follow it as the car is officially junk (it also loses warranty, etc). If you buy a used car from Tesla they will remove the package before sale. There's one case where Tesla apparently messed up and didn't remove the package from a car they re-sold until a…
I read in the past that Tesla does this also to normal used cars that weren't totaled and salvaged. Either way, you paid for it, and even it it's technically "totaled" it's still fucking yours. When Tesla disables functionality remotely, they don't say it's because the warranty ran out or because it's unsafe now, they say they are happy to re-enable it for fresh money. That's why I wouldn't buy a Tesla (or any car of…
Refusing to activate a car you have the legal title to in any scenario is almost certainly illegal, whether you "salvaged" it or not, for instance. Some of the ways they restrict your car they already sold you, the way they use your cars sensors to collect data for their use, even if those sensors are disabled for the owners' use (Autopilot not purchased), etc. are probably one good lawsuit away from being thrown out.
How long until Tesla (or any manufacturer) remotely disables the ignition on all used cars until the new owner pays them to turn it back on. Its only fair. After all, the new owner just bought a hunk of metal from the previous owner. They still need to purchase a license for features like starting the car.
The Tesla model is the iPhone model... you pay good money for the device, but it remains in the full control of the manufacturer. As Apple has had more time to demonstrate, this model has advantages and disadvantages. If you don’t want this business model, don’t buy a Tesla.
I don't want this business model, so I haven't bought an EV, since basically all the EV manufacturers have adopted it.
"This business model" is why I unashamedly burn fossil fuels.
How long until Tesla (or any manufacturer) remotely disables the ignition on all used cars until the new owner pays them to turn it back on. Its only fair. After all, the new owner just bought a hunk of metal from the previous owner. They still need to purchase a license for features like starting the car.
You forgot the /s tag.
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I read in the past that Tesla does this also to normal used cars that weren't totaled and salvaged. Either way, you paid for it, and even it it's technically "totaled" it's still fucking yours. When Tesla disables functionality remotely, they don't say it's because the warranty ran out or because it's unsafe now, they say they are happy to re-enable it for fresh money. That's why I wouldn't buy a Tesla (or any car of…
>Either way, you paid for it, and even it it's technically "totaled" it's still fucking yours. Technically, the insurance company probably owns it as they paid you for it after declaring it totaled.
I totally agree. The right to repair[1] should be the basic premise for any device you expect to last more than a couple of months.
Full self driving seems like an app. I think it would be okay to deactivate, but shouldn’t be included in the resale value of the car. Assume over time the capability becomes tuned to the driver, in that case it wouldn’t be the same as transferring it over.
> Full self driving seems like an app. Serf mentality.