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We do ask the federal/national government how cities and rural areas should be organized in a broad sense, which is really what’s going on with grey wolves in Wisconsin. More to the point: rural and urban citizens have the exact same interest in protecting endangered species. Making this a city-slickers vs country-bumpkins debate is just an exercise in resentment politics that obscures the actual debate.
I agree. But somehow city people have lot of opinions about farmers, what they should do, how they should think, how they should live their life. And I never see it the other way around.
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Because they make food. They are the first part of the supply chain; a chain that is a massive industry.
Sure, and teachers nourish the foundations of our next generation. And construction workers, aren't they literally the backbone of infrastructure? The farmhands in the fields, the masses of immigrants, aren't they also part of the foundations of food? Do these groups have lots of clout? What explains the variation in clout?
To your examples I’d say maybe construction workers are more analogous to butchers. Cement and steel manufactures more to ranchers. Farm hands again, workers where as big Ag certainly has clout. Immigrants mainly can’t vote and once again, further down the supply chain and without property, so interchangeable.
Not sure though.
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Sure, and teachers nourish the foundations of our next generation. And construction workers, aren't they literally the backbone of infrastructure? The farmhands in the fields, the masses of immigrants, aren't they also part of the foundations of food? Do these groups have lots of clout? What explains the variation in clout?
It think it's mostly because of disinformation campaigns rooted in ideologically motivated activism. Someone felt morally superior, convinced other people that they can be morally superior too and then it spread from there.
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I agree. Reintroduce them to Times Square. Until then, why should rural residents have to fear for their children’s and pet’s safety?
Do you understand that there is nothing in Times Square that is anything like natural wolf habitat?
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"It's a really romantic story," Utah State University ecologist Dan McNulty said. "It's a story about a world that doesn't really exist." https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/scientists-debun...
> "Is a really romantic history" It still amazes me how often people think that biologists are stupid Wolves return to Yellowstone has being ruminated, and I say ruminated , by scientists for 70 long years All the possible results were examinated, there were lots of reports evaluating the project and all the benefits and cons were studied for decades, by lots and lots of well trained people. The effect of wolf in env…
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So you want farmers to return to the practices of 4000 year ago. Please come back to earth. You really think farmers should go back to being sheep herders. You really think that’s viable. Wow. It’s Europe. The sheep herders you mentioned are heavily subsidized, either by the government or by NGO’s. That’s not a viable solution for farmers at all.
If you want fine sheep cheese, you need sheep herders. Period. Until today, nobody has managed to teach sheep how to milk themselves in a machine and send the product by certified mail.
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I agree. But somehow city people have lot of opinions about farmers, what they should do, how they should think, how they should live their life. And I never see it the other way around.
Somehow my next door neighbor never illegally dumped 15,000,000 tons of pig shit, contaminating my drinking water for the next generation.
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Somehow my next door neighbor never illegally dumped 15,000,000 tons of pig shit, contaminating my drinking water for the next generation.
Sorry that happened to you. In my village someone from the city dumped 3 truckloads of toxic waste from an XTC lab. One barrel contained a body.
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It's not unreasonable. Wolves are among the few predators that can and will attack humans . That the wolves, themselves, now have a deep-set fear of humanity and would only dare to do so if they're desperate and starving... is a distant second to that same deep-set cultural fear of wolves. Unpopular Opinion Time: The ecosystem damage from not having apex predators is large enough that it might be worth a few human li…
"Solutions" like this are how we destroyed Yellowstone the first time, and why deer now run rampant all over the US, literally eroding forests from excessive grazing. A naive assumption about a complex system has knock-on effects that destroy the entire ecosystem.
Yellowstone: How Not To Manage A National Park https://kottke.org/15/01/yellowstone-how-not-to-manage-a-nat...
"By 1934, the Park Service acknowledged that whitetail deer, cougar, lynx, wolf, and possibly wolverine and fisher are gone from the Yellowstone.
What they didn’t say was that the Park Service was solely responsible for the disappearances."