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Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Y’all need to be learning to make better coffee. Your coffee should taste great without any milk much less sugar. Are you using freshly roasted beans, with a burr grinder, and grinding just before brewing? Use a $15 gram scale from Amazon and a $5 melita pour over paper filter holder and paper filter. 1 part of coffee to 15 to 18 parts water. So for a cup: 23 grams of coffee to 380 grams of water

You don't have to go quite that far to get better tasting coffee. You start with a good quality roast, pre-ground is fine, because average grind size is medium to coarse, which is a good general size (esp. if you don't wanna over-extract). For a brew method, immersion brewing (like an aeropress) is uncomplicated, fast and can make larger batches at once. Brew at ~205F for 2 minutes, extract gently, and add water if i…

I disagree, I’ve found a very significant difference between pre-ground and freshly ground coffee.

There are volatile organic compounds in coffee that begin to dissipate and react with oxygen as soon as they are exposed to the air by being ground.

I’m no coffee snob, I’m not advocating a high end burr grinder, the cheapest one on Amazon will do (~$60).

Same with the brewing method. Aeropress is great too, but anyone can find Meltia pour over filter holders and filters for $5 at their grocery store.

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You can't "feel" if you have cancer or not, until it is too late.

Not true. Many types of cancer can be spotted early on, if you pay attention to your body and know where to look at. And go to a medical check, if there are warning signs.

What types of cancer can be spotted early on? What does "early on" mean?

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Liquorice is an adaptogen that helps balance cortisol levels and balance the adrenals. The other are merely anti inflammatory. Another effective herb for anxiety would be holy basil or tulsi. Easy to grow everywhere. Leaving a few leaves of holy basil in a copper container overnight and having a few sips in the morning on an empty stomach is my old grandmother’s remedy/morning ritual. Later when I started growing hol…

Holy basil is also used as an anti inflammatory consumable. It’s anti anxiety property has as much proof as its anti inflammatory property [1], which is to say like most herbal supplements the jury is out. If you want to go the herbal route I think commonly used herbs with more of a medical precedent could be useful like: - Garlic - Ginseng - Green Tea - Aloe Vera - Ginger - Chamomile [1] Singh, S., Majumdar, D. K.,…

I cant say holy basil is the best anti inflammatory. Maybe. It is mostly used as an adaptogen to balance adrenals and bring down cortisol levels. It can be used as an all around herbal support because it will always ‘balance’ hormones and naturally occurring steroids(like cortisol). So as an adaptogen, gentle and no side effects.

Rosemary has good anti inflammation properties and it’s proven. However turmeric is superior to rosemary and CBD even better. But rosemary and turmeric* can be easily incorporated in food. Garlic is also good.

One must be careful with rosemary(don’t ingest ‘Rosemary tea’ etc..high in volatiles. you will likely end up with a headache or throw up)..but because it has mild to moderate vasodilation properties, it is excellent for circulation issues tho’ especially when applied topically. I want to say that rosemary’s efficiency is more due to it being a rubefacient rather than a powerful anti inflammatory. Example: you are better off using rosemary infused oil for massaging your scalp than ingesting a cup of even mild rosemary tea. The former application will greatly improve circulation to head as the oil topically works better and has less side effects.

Ditto with arnica..arnica gel is better than arnica tincture or herb for internal use. They are useful for hematomas and bruising. But will cause internal bruising and bleeding/inhibit clotting factor when taken internally or applied over an open wound or cut or used subcutaneously. Topical application? It’s golden!

*anecdote: when I was growing up, one of the home herbal lores I heard was how every mother needs three things: turmeric, holy basil and neem. So every home has neem in the front of the house, a basil shrine at the back(hence ‘holy’. It’s similar to elderberry. If something is ‘holy’, one never over harvests it and will keep propagating the plant species). The turmeric used to hang around the woman’s neck or the dried rhizomes given as gifts. Similarly on the kitchen, for food: Ginger, black pepper and long pepper.

I used to work as a chef and trained classical French. I gave a couple of classes to non indian chefs about loading up spice boxes. A typical spice box(South Indian. It differs regionally) will have seven compartments. cumin, coriander seeds, dried red chilies, turmeric, fenugreek seeds, fennel and cardamom. They are all medicinal. This is all you need in small quantities every day. It’s more effective in food everyday with a pinch here and there 2-3x/day. not as much when taken as capsules or a high medicinal dose sporadically. Herbs and spices don’t act like pharmaceutical doses. You have to think of them as preventative therapies rather than curative ones. Asafoetida goes separately in another shelf and clad in multiple layers of metal as does saffron because they are volatile and delicate+expensive respectively. There is another set of tempering seeds but my system was to use one box for flavoring spices and another for tempering.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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All the muslim world does 4-week intermittent fasting every year. That'd make it easy to test the asumption of the paper on a large scale population

A very important difference is that you can't drink water during a Ramadan fast. Regardless of what you're doing with your food, deliberately dehydrating yourself is pretty much never justified.

When I first heard of abstaining from water while fasting I also had a strong emotional reaction to the idea.

After realizing that water is a byproduct of catabolism, I'm willing to entertain the idea that it is beneficial.

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A very important difference is that you can't drink water during a Ramadan fast. Regardless of what you're doing with your food, deliberately dehydrating yourself is pretty much never justified.

"never justified" A religious obligation won't count as justification?

I think the logical interpretation of GP is that it's never justified from the perspective of physical health. Whether religious obligations outweigh ones health is a completely personal decision that no outsider gets any say in.

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I've been doing a 16-20 hour fast since the lockdown and WFH, and to be honest I saw a significant decrease in my overall anxiety as a result. Anxiety I often offset with significant amounts of CBD (a $100/month expense). And while there are drawbacks, I can't bench press 215lbs anymore, the overall benefits have been pretty significant that I will keep doing it. My weight was pretty erratic, given the high stress lo…

This is really interesting... I recently discovered my anxiety 100% vanished if I had a protein shake for breakfast, instead of fasting all day. For me I think it was a neurotransmitter deficiency from not having sufficient precursor amino acids.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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A very important difference is that you can't drink water during a Ramadan fast. Regardless of what you're doing with your food, deliberately dehydrating yourself is pretty much never justified.

When I first heard of abstaining from water while fasting I also had a strong emotional reaction to the idea. After realizing that water is a byproduct of catabolism, I'm willing to entertain the idea that it is beneficial.

It's not an emotional reaction - we have plenty of evidence about the negative impact of dehydration and no substantial evidence in favor of it.

> After realizing that water is a byproduct of catabolism, I'm willing to entertain the idea that it is beneficial.

The two parts of this sentence aren't connected by logic.

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> 1200 calories at least to stop your body from using muscle for sustenance. This is only true up to a point. A colleague put me onto a fasting method called “Buchinger’s Fasting”. I fasted for around a week and a half, muscle maintenance was not a concern. After 3 days, your body burns through the glucose reserves and you get brain fog. After that, indeed, your body tried to break down muscle mass for fuel. The tric…

This aligns exactly with my experience. The body is very reluctant to turn into fat reserves, as they the best source of energy and must be conserved. As you said, exercise helps, and another trick to eat some carbs every three or so days to convince your body to start burning fat.

How does eating carbs convince your body to start consuming fat?
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