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Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by hnick »

coldtea wrote: post #98
hnick wrote: post #72

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> depress a lot of immunity That seems odd, in a non-city context wouldn't eating and drinking be one of the riskiest things in terms of getting sick? Edit: After thinking about it maybe it's related to not overreacting to everything we eat and causing allergies?

Compared to not-eating and drinking? No.

How so? Wouldn't most pathogens be food or water borne if you're not in a crowded city in close proximity to other humans or livestock?

Either way I don't see how what you say is true. If I stop eating or drinking how does that make me catch the flu or something the immune response helps against?

It seems having it active when I eat would be the most useful, which is why I wondered why it worked how it does.

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Post by Barrin92 »

ronyeh wrote: post #32
mikenew wrote: post #9

> Subjects had a significant reduction in body mass index, waist circumference, and improvement in blood pressure Would really like to see this compared to another group with a similar level of calorie restriction but without the intermittent fasting. The question with intermittent fasting is really just "is it better than plain old calorie restriction". Seems like there's some evidence that points to "yes" and some…

I think intermittent fasting is easier to implement for the average person. It's much easier to tell someone that they can eat as much as they want, but only between 6-8pm (one meal a day). It's difficult to tell someone you can eat 3 meals but no more than 1500 calories in total. Once I start eating, I don't want to stop (until I'm full). But the point at which I'm full is way beyond my calorie limit if I am eating…

>It's much easier to tell someone that they can eat as much as they want, but only between 6-8pm (one meal a day).

If eating is part of your social or work life as it is for most people then not really. Or you're going to sit there sipping water while your family or your colleagues eat or have drinks which is miserable

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by peteretep »

Melting_Harps wrote: post #96

I've been doing a 16-20 hour fast since the lockdown and WFH, and to be honest I saw a significant decrease in my overall anxiety as a result. Anxiety I often offset with significant amounts of CBD (a $100/month expense). And while there are drawbacks, I can't bench press 215lbs anymore, the overall benefits have been pretty significant that I will keep doing it. My weight was pretty erratic, given the high stress lo…

> Anxiety I often offset with significant amounts of CBD (a $100/month expense).

While I wouldn’t dare to comment on someone else’s mental health situation, I’d note for anyone else reading and considering this that traditional SSRIs are very effective for some people, cheap, and you won’t have trouble taking them across borders or getting them prescribed in an emergency from a random doctor if you lose your stash

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by ketzo »

soulofmischief wrote: post #42
zerop wrote: post #36

I have been fasting weekly once from morning to evening. I eat only dinner on Tuesday. I have been doing it since past 6 years.. it makes a difference. It improved digestion and overall I feel good at end of fasting day. Good from cnn on fasting advantages https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/01/health/fasting-longevity-food...

Any other effects you think could also be contributing? A change in exercise, diet, etc?

Anecdotally, my dad tried to lose weight with moderate exercise and light diet, and struggled to keep off 5 pounds; intermittent fasting (2 days a week of 1200 calories) dropped him something like 15 lbs in 40 days?

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Post by hnick »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #100
hnick wrote: post #73

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I'm with you there, milk alone is almost too sweet for me because I rarely add sugar to anything. But I think I need it for the creaminess (fat?) to cut the bitterness (and adding oil/butter is probably worse).

I have read that cold brew coffee is less bitter.

I did read about a guy who cold brewed coffee, left the jug in the fridge, then just microwaved it every morning. That sounds tasty and convenient so I need to check it out.

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Post by ketzo »

miffy900 wrote: post #99
ketzo wrote: post #65

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Yeah, fasting is one of those ""health fads"" that really does seem to work miraculously... for some people. For some, it's just nothing; for some, it's miserable. Kind of bizarre how different our metabolisms can be.

I would argue it's definitely not a fad (at least in the sense it's something that's been happening only very recently); people have been fasting for literally thousands of years, though mostly for religious reasons. It has an aura of being a fad nowadays since some modern research has indicated it actually does have health benefits, which I think some people have been a bit too quick to pounce on.

Yeah, I had some heavy quotes for that reason, I just couldn't think of a better name for it.. technique? Practice? Something like that.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by moneytide1 »

RmzH wrote: post #45

- Anticancer - Anti-diabetes - Anti-aging - Reduction in body mass index, waist circumference - Improvement in blood pressure

It makes sense to fast temporarily in order to "jolt" the body into action (reduced external input activates internal compensation processes) as our genetics have ancient embedded protocols developed to push through resource restrictions.

If not for your listed reasons - do it to knock the rust off of safely stored emergency equipment.

I've noticed that once you get past the first "hump" of hunger pangs, famish subsides into the background, and I'd imagine it is at this point where the metaphorical "adrenaline" dosage is injected by nature to make available the bodies reserve energy to get through inevitable temporary nutrient deficiency back in our hunter-gatherer days.

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Post by tptacek »

Nemant wrote: post #8
tptacek wrote: post #4

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They're only fasting for a month out of the year.

A lot of practicing Muslims also fast Mondays and Thursdays and the “3 white days” of the month[0] [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting_in_Islam see “Days of voluntary fasting”

TIL! Thank you!

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by c8g »

erklik wrote: post #40
kranner wrote: post #10

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You'll have to account for increased rates of smoking in both Muslim-majority countries and Muslim populations in non-Muslim-majority countries. From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360407/ > A fifth of the world's population is Muslim, and most Muslims live in areas where the prevalence of smoking is high and often increasing. But even among the many Muslims living in Europe, smoking prevalence (partic…

That's interesting. I believe smoking is discouraged in Islam, so I wonder why the uptake is higher. Guessing it's a general education issue?

As a Muslim and live in a country with 90% Muslim, I can tell, most of the people are Muslim, because they have a Muslim parent. Rape, corruption, addiction, sexual harassments, hate speech are common things here. No Muslim can do these. 5 times prayers (Salah) in a day is absolutely mandatory, absolutely no excuse for Muslim. But most people don't even care, including me :)
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