Has anyone tried fasting from sunset to dawn? I believe that will be easier to do as we are less active during that period.
Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response
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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response
#72> Subjects had a significant reduction in body mass index, waist circumference, and improvement in blood pressure Would really like to see this compared to another group with a similar level of calorie restriction but without the intermittent fasting. The question with intermittent fasting is really just "is it better than plain old calorie restriction". Seems like there's some evidence that points to "yes" and some…
"Would really like to see this compared to another group with a similar level of calorie restriction but without the intermittent fasting." I think the answer to your question is total time inflamed (for lack of a better term). Eating and digesting appear to be an interrupt for many other processes, for obvious reasons. You divert a lot of resources and produce a lot of inflammation and depress a lot of immunity. Do…
> depress a lot of immunity
That seems odd, in a non-city context wouldn't eating and drinking be one of the riskiest things in terms of getting sick?
Edit: After thinking about it maybe it's related to not overreacting to everything we eat and causing allergies?
Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response
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Yeah, this is why I prefer one mead a day (OMAD). It's a very large meal, 1600-2000 calories over a 2 hour period but I find it much easier to control my calorie intake this way. The only thing I regret since the pandemic is drinking coffee. I try to limit the amount of sugar and almond milk I add, but I feel like it's impacting my diet some how.
As someone who absolutely needed sugar in coffee before I considered it drinkable, I can tell you that you can wean yourself off it. It took me several months before I stopped noticing its absence but nowadays I don’t miss it. I still use milk though!
I'm with you there, milk alone is almost too sweet for me because I rarely add sugar to anything. But I think I need it for the creaminess (fat?) to cut the bitterness (and adding oil/butter is probably worse).
Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response
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"Nothing" is a bit strong – it probably says that further study is warranted. It certainly doesn't say that intermittent fasting will cure/prevent cancer.
It could say nothing since we don't know about potential negative trials. How many research groups tried this with a similar N=14 size group but got statistically insignificant results and thus were not able to publish results?
> How many research groups tried this with a similar N=14 size group but got statistically insignificant results [..]
Thanks to p-hacking, I would expect most small studies to get statistically significant results. Though that doesn't settle the more important question of whether they manage to get published.
Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response
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The more you are used to eating in an average meal, the longer it takes to feel "full".
Also, it takes time for the chemical reactions in your body to tell you you are full, so if you eat a little bit, and stop for 15 min, you might very well find that you are full. However, once the taste buds are firing, it’s pretty hard to stop eating mid meal. One way is to take a little bit of food away from all the other food, eat it, and then force yourself to sit there while your blood sugar catches up to tell y…
I find it easier to eat nothing for three days than to ration my meals. Though I'm sure this kind of response is pretty much hard wired tbh
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I think intermittent fasting is easier to implement for the average person. It's much easier to tell someone that they can eat as much as they want, but only between 6-8pm (one meal a day). It's difficult to tell someone you can eat 3 meals but no more than 1500 calories in total. Once I start eating, I don't want to stop (until I'm full). But the point at which I'm full is way beyond my calorie limit if I am eating…
> until I'm full and I've learnt that it's very hard to know when you're satisfied in terms of hunger, and full in terms of desire. The level of food required to satiate my hunger seems to be quite different from when I am "full".
Doing a 1-2 meal, 800 calorie/day diet for 8 weeks helped me to figure this out. The hard adjustment period was only for the first week. I then realized small and fewer meals was sufficient.
Not that the remainder was easy, but it was a different kind of struggle - and noticeably easier than the first week.
Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response
#77Related studies: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=cancer+fasting
anyone can give a conclusion of those studies on the effect of fasting on cancers?
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, this is why I prefer one mead a day (OMAD). It's a very large meal, 1600-2000 calories over a 2 hour period but I find it much easier to control my calorie intake this way. The only thing I regret since the pandemic is drinking coffee. I try to limit the amount of sugar and almond milk I add, but I feel like it's impacting my diet some how.
I know you meant one meal a day, but I read this as one mead a day and it was so really fun confusion. EDIT: parent edited for the typo, but it originally read one mead a day... one very large mead. But where do you get your protein? Is there protein mead? How does this all mead diet work.
Sounds like how I used to 'fast' on weekends
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True. However, even if intermittent fasting is no more effective than calorie restriction, from a human behavior perspective, it seems to be an easier way for many people to achieve their calorie goals than just "eating less".
Yeah, this is why I prefer one mead a day (OMAD). It's a very large meal, 1600-2000 calories over a 2 hour period but I find it much easier to control my calorie intake this way. The only thing I regret since the pandemic is drinking coffee. I try to limit the amount of sugar and almond milk I add, but I feel like it's impacting my diet some how.
Black coffee all the way my friend! I know it's easier said than done. I resisted for a long time, but finally took the plunge ;-) when doing a fasting diet that allowed only water and black coffee outside the eating window. Now it's stuck.
Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
The more you are used to eating in an average meal, the longer it takes to feel "full".
Also, it takes time for the chemical reactions in your body to tell you you are full, so if you eat a little bit, and stop for 15 min, you might very well find that you are full. However, once the taste buds are firing, it’s pretty hard to stop eating mid meal. One way is to take a little bit of food away from all the other food, eat it, and then force yourself to sit there while your blood sugar catches up to tell y…
> it takes time for the chemical reactions in your body to tell you you are full
This is why I suppose I don't enjoy eating when I am "starving" as we like to say when we haven't eaten in a while. I am so hungry that I can't even enjoy the meal because the hunger pangs I am feeling don't subdue until I am practically done with the meal, and sometimes, even afterwards.