No control group, and n=14. This study says nothing.
"Nothing" is a bit strong – it probably says that further study is warranted. It certainly doesn't say that intermittent fasting will cure/prevent cancer.
Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
True. However, even if intermittent fasting is no more effective than calorie restriction, from a human behavior perspective, it seems to be an easier way for many people to achieve their calorie goals than just "eating less".
Yeah, this is why I prefer one mead a day (OMAD). It's a very large meal, 1600-2000 calories over a 2 hour period but I find it much easier to control my calorie intake this way. The only thing I regret since the pandemic is drinking coffee. I try to limit the amount of sugar and almond milk I add, but I feel like it's impacting my diet some how.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
True. However, even if intermittent fasting is no more effective than calorie restriction, from a human behavior perspective, it seems to be an easier way for many people to achieve their calorie goals than just "eating less".
Yeah, this is why I prefer one mead a day (OMAD). It's a very large meal, 1600-2000 calories over a 2 hour period but I find it much easier to control my calorie intake this way. The only thing I regret since the pandemic is drinking coffee. I try to limit the amount of sugar and almond milk I add, but I feel like it's impacting my diet some how.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
> until I'm full and I've learnt that it's very hard to know when you're satisfied in terms of hunger, and full in terms of desire. The level of food required to satiate my hunger seems to be quite different from when I am "full".
The more you are used to eating in an average meal, the longer it takes to feel "full".
However, once the taste buds are firing, it’s pretty hard to stop eating mid meal. One way is to take a little bit of food away from all the other food, eat it, and then force yourself to sit there while your blood sugar catches up to tell you if you still need more.
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#65Anecdata: I have followed IF with a 1100 calorie deficit per day by only eating 1200 calories at dinner for 3 months. This translated to more than 1kg weight loss per week, pretty reliably. Overall I lost 17kg. I adjusted the TDEE and calorie values as needed to maintain the weight loss speed. The weight loss was extremely fast, but so was the rate at which I lost lean mass. This makes sense, as I didn't exercise muc…
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#66> Subjects had a significant reduction in body mass index, waist circumference, and improvement in blood pressure Would really like to see this compared to another group with a similar level of calorie restriction but without the intermittent fasting. The question with intermittent fasting is really just "is it better than plain old calorie restriction". Seems like there's some evidence that points to "yes" and some…
I think the answer to your question is total time inflamed (for lack of a better term).
Eating and digesting appear to be an interrupt for many other processes, for obvious reasons. You divert a lot of resources and produce a lot of inflammation and depress a lot of immunity.
Do you want to be in that state for 14 hours per day or for 6 hours per day ?
My bro-science intuition tells me that, all else being equal, consuming the same number of calories in a tighter window is much less expensive.
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#67Also recommended, stretching your low back five times a day.
In what way? Do you have a lower back routine?
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#69No control group, and n=14. This study says nothing.
Generally it's good to be skeptical but this- "We found a significant fold increase in the levels of several tumor suppressor and DNA repair gene protein products (GP)s at the end of 4th week during 4-week intermittent fasting (CALU, INTS6, KIT, CROCC, PIGR), and 1 week after 4-week intermittent fasting (CALU, CALR, IGFBP4, SEMA4B) compared with the levels before 4-week intermittent fasting." But why would this sudde…
As you pointed out, without a control group, you cannot claim that any change in your measurements are due to anything. The fact that the researchers do attribute it to fasting is just bad science and makes me doubt the rest of their findings.
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#70> Subjects had a significant reduction in body mass index, waist circumference, and improvement in blood pressure Would really like to see this compared to another group with a similar level of calorie restriction but without the intermittent fasting. The question with intermittent fasting is really just "is it better than plain old calorie restriction". Seems like there's some evidence that points to "yes" and some…
"Would really like to see this compared to another group with a similar level of calorie restriction but without the intermittent fasting." I think the answer to your question is total time inflamed (for lack of a better term). Eating and digesting appear to be an interrupt for many other processes, for obvious reasons. You divert a lot of resources and produce a lot of inflammation and depress a lot of immunity. Do…