I find it fascinating that we would never be talking about allegations against the Bidens family on the hacker news if not for the heavy handed censorship from newspaper editors and tech.
My Resignation from the Intercept
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#452Greenwald has really fascinated me the past decade. He was on track to being one of the most prolific reporters on the planet, and he has gone really down this weird victimhood "censorship" path. Sometimes it’s legitimate censorship. Other times, your editor is just insisting you don’t spread misinformation.
I don't know ... The Intercept is practically dead without him regardless. It's not like they managed to rise above him
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#454The first two of the three hours of him being a guest on Joe Rogan yesterday were brilliant. I've never heard someone so eloquently tear down the shiny facades of what passes as high-brow "journalism" these days.
Or just a bitter man being kicked out of the club?
Are you sure the Intercept will survive without him?
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#455Aggrieved left leaning pundit throws tantrum, self exiles. So cliche. So performant.
Glenn Greenwald, Mark Crispin Miller, Greg Palast, Keith Olbermann, Harlan Ellison, Bill Maher... just from the top of my head.
I love their work but omg they must be terrible to work with. Greenwald can't even get along inside the org that he cofounded.
I've worked with similar artists, purists, ultimatists. It's exhausting. Harlan Ellison biopic "Dreams with Sharp Teeth" captures it perfectly. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018887/
Contrast Glennwald with others who figure out the working artist schtick.
Bill Maher did a new thing on cable.
Rachel Maddow somehow plays the corporate media game.
Even Chris Hedges, the world's biggest Eeyore (or Marvin the Robot from HGTG), gets paid.
Some leftists figured out the podcast game. Pod Save America, Young Turks, "bread tube".
Ezra Klein and Matt Yglesias launched a new masthead (vox.com). Seriously impressive.
And contrast the left and right ecosystems.
Rightists have time proven playbook. Merch, weird advertisers, tours and events, stable sources of funding.
If Limbaugh and Alex Jones and Shapiro can find patrons to seed their endeavors, and customers to buy their wares, surely leftists can suck it up too.
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#456I don't understand what is the big deal, it is a publication, they can have their editorial line and unlike Twitter or Facebook they will also have to bear the consequences if they publish something problematic.
The problem is with platforms which benefit from both worlds. They are considered as utilities when it comes to bear the consequences of what they publish but as a publication when it comes to their ability to decide what they publish and what not.
I think that there should be a distinction between a forum like HN, which should be able to curate their content without being considered a publication because it deals with a specific subject and community, to a general platform like facebook or twitter which should be considered as a utility not different to a phone or electric company.
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#457"as a last-ditch attempt to avoid being censored, I encouraged them to air their disagreements with me by writing their own articles that critique my perspectives and letting readers decide who is right" That's not how this works. If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election, you don't run it and then "let the readers decide who is ri…
> That's not how this works. If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election, you don't run it He is/was one of the main editors of The Intercept. He is the second person listed on https://theintercept.com/about/ . There is a wide media censorship on this story. If you think it's just this story, they are also squashing reports on the Ph…
And all? most? of his colleagues with fairly similar political views and a dedication to good journalism are opposed. Glenn seems to have picked his personal grudge over journalistic integrity
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#458The original draft has been posted. have submitted at the link below:
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#459Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Journalists have essentially become socialites. They don't want to publish articles that will rock the boat," There have been a virtually uncountable number of high-profile investigative pieces that criticise people in power published in the last 6 months! This argument is nonsense.
It's not nonsense, because you're missing that if you criticize someone who you are allowed to criticize, there is no risk to yourself. It's going against the herd and criticizing someone like Joe Biden that will get you thrown out of the club. So, if it's a high-profile investigative piece on a senior trump admin official, everyone will applaud you. But as soon as you start investigating the Biden family or, on the…
You are right, but it goes both ways. If a writer at the Federalist or Breibart tried to publish a piece arguing AOC's economics actually had some merit, they would not be met with an enthusiastic response from their professional and social circles.
Polarization and factionalism on both sides of the media is the problem.
Re: My Resignation from the Intercept
#460Amazing the amount of people who are essentially reacting with "Greenwald was spreading foxnews disinfo" without even having read his article.
How many people have asserted that they personally believe Greenwald was spreading disinformation and have also stated that they did not read his article?
Further context as to why the editors of the intercept seem to have been acting in an unprecedentedly partisan way here, from Greenwald:
"...under my contract, and the practice of The Intercept over the last seven years, none of my articles is edited unless it presents the possibility of legal liability or complex original reporting, and not one of my articles in the last fifteen years — published with dozens of major media outlets around the world — has ever been retracted or even had appended to it a serious correction."