Amazing the amount of people who are essentially reacting with "Greenwald was spreading foxnews disinfo" without even having read his article.
My Resignation from the Intercept
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#202> These are the raging battles over free expression and the right of dissent raging within every major cultural, political and journalistic institution. That’s the crisis that journalism, and more broadly values of liberalism, faces. Our discourse is becoming increasingly intolerant of dissenting views, and our culture is demanding more and more submission to prevailing orthodoxies imposed by self-anointed monopolists of Truth and Righteousness, backed up by armies of online enforcement mobs.
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#203"as a last-ditch attempt to avoid being censored, I encouraged them to air their disagreements with me by writing their own articles that critique my perspectives and letting readers decide who is right" That's not how this works. If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election, you don't run it and then "let the readers decide who is ri…
> all that matters is that the story runs, not whether it's shown to be false months after the election is over
This mentality is authoritarian, anti-democratic, and anti-free speech. It implies that YOU, the editor, or whoever gets to decide for the rest of us what is worth knowing about or not. This is why non-partisan mainstream news is failing. The Internet has shown people the stories (true or not) that were being left out. I want raw information from the news not a carefully selected set of stories that follow a neat narrative.
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#204Somewhat Off Topic: Glen just did an interview on Joe Rogan [1]. I would suggest it may be worth watching for those interested in this. He discussed some of these issues. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rcLsoIKgA
I'll pass giving that loser another view.
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#205"as a last-ditch attempt to avoid being censored, I encouraged them to air their disagreements with me by writing their own articles that critique my perspectives and letting readers decide who is right" That's not how this works. If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election, you don't run it and then "let the readers decide who is ri…
You're right that it's not how this works. Media organizations are not interested truth or accuracy of their stories, but simply how many ads and subscriptions the stories can sell. And that's not the say they are motivated by greed - even worse, they are often motivated by missionary-like zeal to promote a cause. So of course it would follow that they have no interest in publishing anything disagreeable to their rea…
Media is completely sold out in the country. A purge is incoming.
Re: My Resignation from the Intercept
#206"as a last-ditch attempt to avoid being censored, I encouraged them to air their disagreements with me by writing their own articles that critique my perspectives and letting readers decide who is right" That's not how this works. If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election, you don't run it and then "let the readers decide who is ri…
>If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election Nobody disputes why this story was dropped at the time it was dropped. It's a common tactic that has been practiced for decades by political campaigns and even media outlets. Heck, there is a reason why the Kavanaugh story broke when it did. There is a reason why the NY Times published Tru…
When the center-left tries to over index on fairness and balance it loses. We don't yet know how to combat the disinformation campaign the president and fox news are waging. Greenwald was just on Joe Rogan yesterday and they each are either ignorant or unmoved by the effects this disinformation is having on our public discourse. Greenwald purports to be the ultimate protector of free speech and want us to be free to question all our the most sacred ideas but what does it mean when what's published is not a good faith critique of our institutions but is instead just lies. How do we fight back because it is a fight.
I can't help but also add that Joe Rogan is leaning heavily Right in this election because he's pissed it's not the old days where he could hop on the mic with your everyday misogyny, sexism, and dull thinking without repercussion -- this is the Left's doing in his mind. Their conversation was striking for its lack of critique of Trump on any matter while they lay into Biden. This entire episode is interesting and nuanced.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tucker Carlson just announced on Twitter that he has lost critical documents relating to the alleged wrongdoings of Hunter Biden. This was moments before Glenn Greenwald's resignation.
I'm not familiar with this conspiracy theory, can you explain how they're connected?
It means evidence backing up Greenwald's controversial position was still not checked out. The fact that the centerpiece of a story could be "lost" before it was even studied would show that Greenwald was jumping the gun.
He has no access to the evidence but he is making very preliminary bets.
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#208"as a last-ditch attempt to avoid being censored, I encouraged them to air their disagreements with me by writing their own articles that critique my perspectives and letting readers decide who is right" That's not how this works. If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election, you don't run it and then "let the readers decide who is ri…
> That's not how this works. If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election, you don't run it
He is/was one of the main editors of The Intercept. He is the second person listed on https://theintercept.com/about/. There is a wide media censorship on this story. If you think it's just this story, they are also squashing reports on the Philadelphia riots.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll have to listen to the podcast, but I think you're way off in thinking this kind of story makes careers. Journalists take their credibility very seriously and this story doesn't have it, at least not yet if it ever will. Going with a story that hasn't been vetted marks a serious journalist as a dupe for the rest of their lives.
What do you mean this story hasn't been vetted? One of the major players in the story has gone on record, giving an approximately 45 minute long interview verifying the claims. The FBI and DNI have also both confirmed the validity of the laptop. How much more "verified" than that would you need?
The same FBI claims Giuliani is being used by foreign nations to influence our elections. What's your source?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/giuliani-bi...
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would withhold any opinion that it is a "garbage story" until actually reading it...
If the entire editorial team and his peers rejected it, it seems pretty clear.
Greenwald was the founder of the outfit. I would think weight would be given to senior editors judgment.