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My Resignation from the Intercept

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Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Post by reaperducer »

blhack wrote: post #27

Glenn had a 3 hour long conversation on a podcast a few days ago where he laid out the problem really well: Journalists have essentially become socialites. They don't want to publish articles that will rock the boat, because the people they are friends with are the ones that own that boat, invite them to parties, and are a part of their friend groups. The reporting around this story has been absolutely unbelievable t…

There have always been socialite-class journalists, and under-class journalists. The problem is that the people coming out of journalism schools these days want fame and to become YouTube stars, rather than change the world for the better. And the schools optimize for this desire in order to keep the tuition money flowing in.

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

Cullinet wrote: post #229
bachmeier wrote: post #20

"as a last-ditch attempt to avoid being censored, I encouraged them to air their disagreements with me by writing their own articles that critique my perspectives and letting readers decide who is right" That's not how this works. If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election, you don't run it and then "let the readers decide who is ri…

Is this the editor who wore down Snowden's patience with obstinate ignorance how to use encrypted emails despite being written tailored dummies guides, until Snowden wrote in the clear and ruined his life? I'm not asking rhetorically I'm on my phone, and on the bus but this seems like it could lead to the incident, "I tried to teach GPG to Greenwald but I had the same problem Snowden had encountered when he reached o…

I believe that you are talking about Assange and the GPG key, right? I believe that that was a former Guardian journalist, not Greenwald.

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Post by gnusty_gnurc »

adobecs3 wrote: post #339
Nacdor wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have anything to support this accusation? I've been watching him closely for several years and it seems the mortal sin he committed was his failure to join the Russiagate bandwagon. In the end that was clearly the correct choice, but the liberal media no longer tolerates anyone who has the audacity to undermine their chosen narrative.

If it's againat Biden it's misinformation and if you don't agree you are alt right. Conpiracy theorist. Also Russia collusion has been proven.

It's scary I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Post by m0zg »

meowface wrote: post #230
clint wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like if they only cared about clicks and ads they would've ran the article. From my position, they exercised the bare-minimum duties of any good editor to shut down stories they don't believe meet the standards they set for themselves. And for exercising that duty, they are leaving clicks, ad impressions, and probably a good amount of money on the table.

They're free to make that choice if that's their true assessment of it. But when Greenwald publishes his piece, if it actually is not in fact a garbage piece, they're going to look extremely bad and biased.

Which, by the way, is almost certain. Greenwald is not known for publishing "garbage pieces". He gave up his career as a lawyer to do what he does. He was censored for the same reason why NYPost, one of the oldest and largest US newspapers, has been censored on Twitter for the past 2 weeks (still is) - the story is real, and it's getting in the way of regime change by the Deep State.

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Post by Fellshard »

clint wrote: post #213
karl11 wrote: post #117

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You're right that it's not how this works. Media organizations are not interested truth or accuracy of their stories, but simply how many ads and subscriptions the stories can sell. And that's not the say they are motivated by greed - even worse, they are often motivated by missionary-like zeal to promote a cause. So of course it would follow that they have no interest in publishing anything disagreeable to their rea…

Seems like if they only cared about clicks and ads they would've ran the article. From my position, they exercised the bare-minimum duties of any good editor to shut down stories they don't believe meet the standards they set for themselves. And for exercising that duty, they are leaving clicks, ad impressions, and probably a good amount of money on the table.

Not if they expect that they would be effectively cut off from most major distribution channels for doing so.

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Post by gnusty_gnurc »

Tokkemon wrote: post #196
tpmx wrote: post #32

The first two of the three hours of him being a guest on Joe Rogan yesterday were brilliant. I've never heard someone so eloquently tear down the shiny facades of what passes as high-brow "journalism" these days.

Or just a bitter man being kicked out of the club?

Is it telling that you conceive of news outlets as clubs?

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Post by sbilstein »

jpadkins wrote: post #158
karl11 wrote: post #117

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You're right that it's not how this works. Media organizations are not interested truth or accuracy of their stories, but simply how many ads and subscriptions the stories can sell. And that's not the say they are motivated by greed - even worse, they are often motivated by missionary-like zeal to promote a cause. So of course it would follow that they have no interest in publishing anything disagreeable to their rea…

> simply how many ads and subscriptions the stories can sell. I don't think this is actually right. I think owners of news media companies want influence more than profit. I don't think Bezos is buying news media for the profits... The influence helps for their other goals.

Techies, thanks to a bunch of dumb twitter talking heads, seem to think journalists are just rolling in bundles of cash from clicks. They're not. The vast majority of them, even the ones with upwards of 20k twitter followers, barely make any money. Influence is definitely more important to them than cash.

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Post by gnusty_gnurc »

henriquez wrote: post #338

The response on HN to this is a disgrace.

People are in a frenzy and they have social networks/living situations that reinforce their biases.

It's sad but the elites of society (lots of the software community) think the rest are a scourge and incorrigible.

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Post by ModernMech »

hajile wrote: post #262
clint wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like if they only cared about clicks and ads they would've ran the article. From my position, they exercised the bare-minimum duties of any good editor to shut down stories they don't believe meet the standards they set for themselves. And for exercising that duty, they are leaving clicks, ad impressions, and probably a good amount of money on the table.

They published the Steele dossier with ZERO evidence. It's now been completely discredited as a Russian plant the Obama administration knew was from a Russian asset. The US government has officially said there's no Russian involvement in the recent Biden leak and it's been vouched for by Tony Bobulinski who definitely has close ties to the Biden family, yet it's not publishable? That's as partisan as it gets and dese…

>The US government has officially said there's no Russian involvement in the recent Biden leak

DNI John Ratcliffe, who is a Republican partisan, said that on Fox News. He was also just caught lying to the FBI director in making a partisan assessment (with zero to back it up) in a statement about election interference by Iran last week. He's not exactly a credible and dispassionate actor in all of this.

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