Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

Post by cbsks » Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 2:49 AM UTC

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> Then the delivery guy who was probably only a couple years older than us just asked to see his actual underage ID to prove he wasn't a cop and handed us the beer anyway. The liquor enforcement folks (usually not cops, AFAIK) could easily hire someone under 21 to attempt to purchase alcohol. In fact, I'm pretty sure that in some places they do exactly this.

They do get underage folks to try to do either "shoulder tap" operations or direct purchases from vendors. I was asked to do this once as a teenager. I refused, but not before asking a lot of questions about what I'd be doing. I can't say much about the shoulder tap operations, however, I believe there's still a couple of tells for the direct purchase attempts based on the conversations I had: 1. To ensure safety, th…

Post by closeparen » Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 3:01 AM UTC

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I used to participate in a city-wide water pistol assassination tournament. Skipped the hard hat, got white coveralls from Home Depot, pinned my work id to it, carried a clipboard. Got in everywhere I needed to be, including a heliport and a private boat dock. I forget where I read it, but the phrase "just act like you're supposed to be there" has stuck with me a long time, and paid dividends.

as a teenager, i remember marveling at a friend who could successfully walk into bars and order drinks. you have to both look the part and play the part (i could do neither). even at places that carded, they wanted to serve you, so the ID had to only provide enough plausible deniability to the bouncer or bartender to credibly claim they were duped into serving you. i'm sure some bartenders secretly got a kick out of…

Post by alasdair_ » Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 3:10 AM UTC

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Jeez I’m wondering what the going price would be for that today.

I've seen reports that it's somewhat common for the rich in China[1], so there might be some info on what it costs there, and maybe some extrapolation could be made. Either the "serve prison in lieu of me" or "say you were the one that committed the crime" version. There are weird perverse incentives at play in some of the laws of criminal justice system in China.[2] 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4339051 2:…

Post by dzhiurgis » Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 3:28 AM UTC

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Failure to verify such documents is totally on hospitals. We've recently had a similar case here in Lithuania, where doctor claimed to studied something in US. When they've called the university, they've said they don't even have such programme.

As far as I understand it, in Germany you are required to hand in the original documents a few months after you have started your job. If you fail to do so, you are first being reminded, then you pay a fine, and than it increasingly escalates. But it will take several years until an actual investigation begins.

Post by eatingCake » Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 3:51 AM UTC

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Positively identifying people was very difficult before fingerprinting came along. The police used all kinds of schemes of erratic accuracy.

Several years ago I read the book Fingerprints by Colin Beavan [0] and it was really eye opening how different life was before we had modern forms of identification. Example 1: In countries that had little formal legal structures and rudimentary identification (e.g. India in the early 1800s), it was incredibly easy to be a criminal and just move from town to town while acquiring new identities. In other words, there…