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Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Having someone else do your prison time was fairly common. Now with more cooperation between organizations and improved biometrics it has dropped. Different people would be arrested, show up to court, or enter the prison. Impossible for organizations downstream to detect or assume a switch had happened.

Positively identifying people was very difficult before fingerprinting came along. The police used all kinds of schemes of erratic accuracy.

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Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Not necessarily. For one, it probably doesn't take much smarts to fill out the paperwork or trick the system. The system is full of people who don't know their job and have no real incentive to (can be difficult to fire government employees). For example, I am involved with a case in which a state trooper made 4 or 5 mistakes, including mis-citing a statute so badly that the court system shows it as invalid and he la…

A traffic case? De minimus non curat lex. If it was a murder case, they would correct the trooper's errors. It's easy to fix typographic errors in indictments.

It's a non-traffic summary offense. These are more than typographical errors (did you read the above?). Willful concealment of exculpatory evidence (his lie to cover his mistakes) is a civil rights violation, depriving the accused of a fair trial as prescribed under Brady vs Maryland. This is not de minimus as it should fit the definition of official oppression or malicious prosecution, much greater issues than the summary offense citation. So if you give a free pass on misdemeanor offenses of the trooper as de minimus, then surely the summary offense should be dismissed?

Not to mention that it does not matter what the severity of the offense is. The same protections of the law and adherence to rule of law is necessary at all levels to ensure the integrity of the system and the protection of the people's rights. If you contend that a traffic violation doesn't merit the same attention and protections by the system, then I would contend that the traffic violation would be a de minimus infraction and doesn't merit any attention at all - better a legitimate outcome that some half-ass fuckery that violates the rights of the citizenry.

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Did it really work, or was it due to a happenstance: In November, Hillsborough County prosecutors became suspicious when they heard from a state forensic examiner, who had been scheduled to perform a competency evaluation on Landon. The examiner saw a notice in Landon’s court file that prosecutors had dropped charges; the examiner wanted to know if the examination should go forward. How would it have been detected if…

> Indictments allege Landon also filed an order falsifying a decision of retired Superior Court Judge Gillian Abramson to waive filing fees in a lawsuit she brought against Hillsborough County. And she allegedly filed an order on behalf of a relative to halt guardianship proceedings involving Landon’s child. The loose ends aren't separable from her desired outcomes. They're integral. You can't "tie up the loose ends"…

If her court date were the last day before a holiday weekend nobody would have asked any questions.

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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For the most part, water pistols look nothing like firearms. I very much doubt that you'd be in danger of being treated as an armed threat when holding a transparent, green, plastic gun that's leaking water.

In NYC its a crime to brandish a toy gun that looks like a real one. That's why all the water pistols are florescent green and orange. It's also a crime to paint a real gun to look like a toy.

Being illegal in NYC is like being known to the state of California for causing birth defects and other reproductive harm. It doesn't actually tell you anything about the matter in question.

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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451 F = the temperature at which fire burns

It's the ignition temperature for paper. Fire burns at different temperatures depending on the fuel source, even paper will each a much hotter temperature after ignition.

It's an approximate and somewhat mythical value, popularised by Ray Bradbury's novel. Actual ignition point varies bu 100+ °F. Experience this past year with sourdough baking --- on parchment paper at 290°C (550°F) --- shows that though the paper browns, it does not combust. (Possibly affected by thermal mass / moisture of bread loaf.)

https://slate.com/technology/2012/06/ray-bradbury-death-does...

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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If someone already suspects you have a firearm they don't need evidence... they need an excuse. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

Trayvon Martin assaulted Zimmerman before Zimmerman shot him. This event is not germane to the discussion. No one thought Martin had a gun.

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Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Having someone else do your prison time was fairly common. Now with more cooperation between organizations and improved biometrics it has dropped. Different people would be arrested, show up to court, or enter the prison. Impossible for organizations downstream to detect or assume a switch had happened.

Jeez I’m wondering what the going price would be for that today.

I've seen reports that it's somewhat common for the rich in China[1], so there might be some info on what it costs there, and maybe some extrapolation could be made. Either the "serve prison in lieu of me" or "say you were the one that committed the crime" version. There are weird perverse incentives at play in some of the laws of criminal justice system in China.[2]

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4339051

2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10173395 (warning, the linked article describes very disturbing behavior and specific instances)

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Maybe it’s not a big deal, unless you value honesty above all else. I am not always honest, especially when it’s obvious to me that the other party will only use my goodwill to their advantage. In the case of the parent, I can imagine many scenarios where it is difficult or untimely to get supervisor approval, but failure or delay in doing so results in the employee catching all the heat for it.

Fair point, but the parent.parent says this was to "approve some minor thing" The risk is that the "minor thing" isn't so minor, especially when the bypassing of the review process becomes routine. I suppose put it this way. Imagine a software developer slipped in smaller code changes and circumvented procedures like QA or code review because they though it was "just some minor thing" Would you find that OK?

Where I work, making code changes after an approved review is pretty normal. Particularly because we aren’t all awake at the same time (different time zones). It’s quite common to see “feel free to merge after fixing.” Otherwise it would take days to merge something.

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Maybe it’s not a big deal, unless you value honesty above all else. I am not always honest, especially when it’s obvious to me that the other party will only use my goodwill to their advantage. In the case of the parent, I can imagine many scenarios where it is difficult or untimely to get supervisor approval, but failure or delay in doing so results in the employee catching all the heat for it.

> unless you value honesty above all else. . > I am not always honest, I work with regulated professionals. Honesty is a big deal. Dishonesty is seen as a fundamental personal flaw. Healthcare professionals who've been dishonest struggle to show remediation. It's really weird to me that I need to explain that forging someone else's name on documents is a bad idea .

What is the probability that everyone you work with is 100% honest, vs them figuring out how to be dishonest (in a "for the grater good" kind of way, as the comment you originally commented on) without you (or anybody else) noticing?

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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> Then the delivery guy who was probably only a couple years older than us just asked to see his actual underage ID to prove he wasn't a cop and handed us the beer anyway. The liquor enforcement folks (usually not cops, AFAIK) could easily hire someone under 21 to attempt to purchase alcohol. In fact, I'm pretty sure that in some places they do exactly this.

Yeah, that seems like ensuring you get convicted if the guy was a cop. At least without checking his underage id you could claim you believed him.

They just want to fine the business. Arresting delivery drivers for not giving a crap about underage drinking is how you create libertarians and that's the last thing the local police department wants.
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