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Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Post by duxup »

supernova87a wrote: post #23

I guess this brings up and interesting issue -- once someone knows the ins and outs of a system, sometimes there are very few barriers internally to check that an order/paperwork is legit. There was a story in WSJ like last week about how the Japanese red stamp / seal still survives and is a barrier to them adopting new technology for practical every day speeding up of tasks. And keeps things like faxes around unnece…

The Hacktober thing seemed to demonstrate this.

I apparently was involved with some project on github, got flooded with emails with read me changes.

It never ocured to me how available such things are.

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

ben_w wrote: post #81
maxcbc wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favourite part of GDPR is getting to use 451 legitimately everywhere.

It’s a Carol business decision that letting Alices & Bobs view content for free isn’t cost effective if Carol isn’t allowed to track Alice and Bob without their permission and make money by letting Eve, who is unknown Alice and Bob, to build up a detailed profile of Alice and Bob. Project Guttenberg in Germany (and The Pirate Bay in the USA, I think) would be 451.

Why is Project Gutenberg illegal in Germany?

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Post by sam_bristow »

fuzxi wrote: post #83
abeppu wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What city was this in? Is it in a place where other people have real guns? Is it in a place where the cops have guns? I both want to play and suspect that it would go really really badly.

For the most part, water pistols look nothing like firearms. I very much doubt that you'd be in danger of being treated as an armed threat when holding a transparent, green, plastic gun that's leaking water.

* assuming you're white

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Post by rsync »

supernova87a wrote: post #23

I guess this brings up and interesting issue -- once someone knows the ins and outs of a system, sometimes there are very few barriers internally to check that an order/paperwork is legit. There was a story in WSJ like last week about how the Japanese red stamp / seal still survives and is a barrier to them adopting new technology for practical every day speeding up of tasks. And keeps things like faxes around unnece…

"I guess this brings up and interesting issue -- once someone knows the ins and outs of a system, sometimes there are very few barriers internally to check that an order/paperwork is legit."

This was a regular narrative from the days of phone phreaking and toll fraud, etc.

Just speaking the correct lingo of a lineman or an operator or a toll office supervisor could allow one to navigate through all the depths of the telephone system. Not just to receive services without charge, but to actually build and teardown circuits, set up test numbers (ANACs), conference calls, etc.

It's incredible to think that a few lines of Twiml, or a Twilio function, can create something like an ANAC which was a rare, valuable, and jealously guarded secret 30 years ago ...

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Post by pugworthy »

rembicilious wrote: post #75
DanBC wrote: post #68

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It's surprising when people casually admit to dishonest behaviour as if it's no big deal.

Maybe it’s not a big deal, unless you value honesty above all else. I am not always honest, especially when it’s obvious to me that the other party will only use my goodwill to their advantage. In the case of the parent, I can imagine many scenarios where it is difficult or untimely to get supervisor approval, but failure or delay in doing so results in the employee catching all the heat for it.

Fair point, but the parent.parent says this was to "approve some minor thing" The risk is that the "minor thing" isn't so minor, especially when the bypassing of the review process becomes routine.

I suppose put it this way. Imagine a software developer slipped in smaller code changes and circumvented procedures like QA or code review because they though it was "just some minor thing" Would you find that OK?

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Post by 35fbe7d3d5b9 »

rkagerer wrote: post #87
shadowgovt wrote: post #29

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One could argue the internal barriers are unnecessary if "trust but verify" works. In this case, it worked; she was able to play the system until verification identified something was wrong, and now she gets to go to jail over it. (Technical systems often need more stringent protections because "screw around and go to jail" isn't a threat that, say, Facebook can bring to bear).

Did it really work, or was it due to a happenstance: In November, Hillsborough County prosecutors became suspicious when they heard from a state forensic examiner, who had been scheduled to perform a competency evaluation on Landon. The examiner saw a notice in Landon’s court file that prosecutors had dropped charges; the examiner wanted to know if the examination should go forward. How would it have been detected if…

> Indictments allege Landon also filed an order falsifying a decision of retired Superior Court Judge Gillian Abramson to waive filing fees in a lawsuit she brought against Hillsborough County. And she allegedly filed an order on behalf of a relative to halt guardianship proceedings involving Landon’s child.

The loose ends aren't separable from her desired outcomes. They're integral. You can't "tie up the loose ends" while committing these acts of fraud.

"Hold on, why'd this case drop off the docket", says the DA. "I didn't file this", says the lawyer. "My ruling is due next week", says the judge.

Any one of those would be noticed and questions asked of the court clerk. And they all end in the same place.

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Post by OwlsParlay »

noir_lord wrote: post #89
cannam wrote: post #62

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They're not blocked, they're blocking themselves.

Yep, so far "We can't serve you for legal reasons AKA we won't comply with the reasonable provisions of data protection" has been met with a broad shrug .

For US-based news sites they might well only get a few European visitors. I only ever get this problem for trending stories like this.

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Post by diab0lic »

jll29 wrote: post #88
quercusa wrote: post #7

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451 is a great status code, right up there with 418.

451 F = the temperature at which fire burns

It's the ignition temperature for paper. Fire burns at different temperatures depending on the fuel source, even paper will each a much hotter temperature after ignition.

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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Post by [deleted] »

rsync wrote: post #94
supernova87a wrote: post #23

I guess this brings up and interesting issue -- once someone knows the ins and outs of a system, sometimes there are very few barriers internally to check that an order/paperwork is legit. There was a story in WSJ like last week about how the Japanese red stamp / seal still survives and is a barrier to them adopting new technology for practical every day speeding up of tasks. And keeps things like faxes around unnece…

"I guess this brings up and interesting issue -- once someone knows the ins and outs of a system, sometimes there are very few barriers internally to check that an order/paperwork is legit." This was a regular narrative from the days of phone phreaking and toll fraud, etc. Just speaking the correct lingo of a lineman or an operator or a toll office supervisor could allow one to navigate through all the depths of the…

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