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One has to wonder what legal frauds, asset grabs, and impersonations have transpired that were never discovered. Some perspective on this is the story of Alves dos Reis ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alves_dos_Reis ) who in 1924 stole ~1% of Portugal's GDP in bank notes printed under forged orders. The scheme may have never been uncovered had Reis succeeded in maintaining a controlling interest in the Bank of Portug…

Here in Germany we had a few cases where persons worked as hospital doctors for a few years without a license or diploma or even any medical training. They usually submitted a fake license to the hospital. There was a spectacular case in the 1990s where a former postal employee named himself "Dr. med. Dr. phil. Clemens Bartholdy" and later worked as a senior physician in a psychiatric hospital, also giving lectures […

Ferdinand Demara impersonated a surgeon on a Canadian naval ship during the Korean War. He performed a number of successful surgeries and was only caught because of a newspaper article about how he had successfully removed a bullet from a wounded soldier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Waldo_Demara

Re: Woman allegedly impersonated prosecutor, dropped charges against herself

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sure, if they do business with Europe, they should be complying with the laws. i don't think that's controversial. you said "local news organizations", and i was simply pointing out if that is what they truly were, they wouldn't have to comply. so i think we agree?

What does "doing business" mean here? I've read Recital 23 and at best it is vague and seems up to the discretion of the various member states. It would be a great service to everyone if the EU could clarify which type of sites do not have to comply. Otherwise, you can hardly blame organizations that it would be cheaper to block EU traffic than even just to pay a lawyer to try to figure out of GDPR is applicable.

It is vague; I believe this is an issue of trying to apply a US law perspective to Europe (common law vs civil law). The main problem with letter of the law interpretations is they go out of date quickly, and there might be significant loop holes - so they didn't do that. Do you think it's possible to come up with a definitive list of "type of sites" that don't have to comply? Might be tricky.

And I definitely don't blame organisations blocking EU traffic; it's at least an honest admission they won't protect your privacy. (Although it may not be a decision of the site itself, I'll get to that in a second.)

Recital 23 is spot on though. Can a New Hampshire-based local news site be said to offer goods or services to members of the Union? It sure sounds like you could say "no" in good faith (which is a defence, IANAL etc).

Can the same be said for either a huge multi-national, or trackers and ad-flinging networks a local site might use? Probably not...

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I've seen reports that it's somewhat common for the rich in China[1], so there might be some info on what it costs there, and maybe some extrapolation could be made. Either the "serve prison in lieu of me" or "say you were the one that committed the crime" version. There are weird perverse incentives at play in some of the laws of criminal justice system in China.[2] 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4339051 2:…

This reminds me of the classic phrase, “the butler did it”. It took me ages to realise that butlers aren’t naturally villainous, but rather were expected to take the fall for any malfeasance committed by the family.

But... Were they really?

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This reminds me of the classic phrase, “the butler did it”. It took me ages to realise that butlers aren’t naturally villainous, but rather were expected to take the fall for any malfeasance committed by the family.

edit- after reading up on this, I'm not sure where you got your information from but everything I could find shows it to just be the common detective/mystery trope.

It just follows logically that historically some powerful families would have paid off a fall guy if necessary, and they could have used a butler in some cases. This could've been the origin of the term, before it even showed up in murder mysteries. Perhaps from the 1700s

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I guess this brings up and interesting issue -- once someone knows the ins and outs of a system, sometimes there are very few barriers internally to check that an order/paperwork is legit. There was a story in WSJ like last week about how the Japanese red stamp / seal still survives and is a barrier to them adopting new technology for practical every day speeding up of tasks. And keeps things like faxes around unnece…

"I guess this brings up and interesting issue -- once someone knows the ins and outs of a system, sometimes there are very few barriers internally to check that an order/paperwork is legit." This was a regular narrative from the days of phone phreaking and toll fraud, etc. Just speaking the correct lingo of a lineman or an operator or a toll office supervisor could allow one to navigate through all the depths of the…

Yes. Phone phreaking in the 90s involved a ton of learning the lingo and the ins and outs of the phone company. It was even weirder to go work there later on and found how much that paid off and earned trust with a lot of the older folks there.

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If someone already suspects you have a firearm they don't need evidence... they need an excuse. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

Trayvon Martin assaulted Zimmerman before Zimmerman shot him. This event is not germane to the discussion. No one thought Martin had a gun.

Zimmerman was following him home and Martin had a reasonable belief that he was in danger. Zimmerman was told by the police over the phone to remain in his car and he left his car and pursued Martin as Martin was walking home in a place he had every right to be. Whatever legal protection Zimmerman enjoyed for for being there did not extend to violating the instructions of the police and following a teenager to his home.

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If someone already suspects you have a firearm they don't need evidence... they need an excuse. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

You are reading into this too much. This is a case of Dead Men Can't Speak. Rather than leave evidence of a crime, opportunity cost of murder is getting off scot-free. The media turned it into primetime theater, but it was never about race. It is about stand your ground and ultimately how the dead can't defend themselves in court.

This is true. The prosecutor should have observed that Stand Your Ground applied to Trayvon Martin who has reasonable belief that he was being pursued by someone intending to do him harm. Martin was not afforded equal protection under the law.

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This reminds me of the classic phrase, “the butler did it”. It took me ages to realise that butlers aren’t naturally villainous, but rather were expected to take the fall for any malfeasance committed by the family.

> It took me ages to realise that butlers aren’t naturally villainous, but rather were expected to take the fall for any malfeasance committed by the family. I just realized that in Oct 28th, 2020. Thanks for that.

This might or might not be true, but it's not the origin of "the butler did it".

The origin of the phrase is in the classical detective story trope.

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> unless you value honesty above all else. . > I am not always honest, I work with regulated professionals. Honesty is a big deal. Dishonesty is seen as a fundamental personal flaw. Healthcare professionals who've been dishonest struggle to show remediation. It's really weird to me that I need to explain that forging someone else's name on documents is a bad idea .

What is the probability that everyone you work with is 100% honest, vs them figuring out how to be dishonest (in a "for the grater good" kind of way, as the comment you originally commented on) without you (or anybody else) noticing?

Not the parent, and its probably close to 100% that someone there is dishonest, but lets put this in context: The police enforce laws against murder. What are the chances that a police officer has murdered someone? (100%). Does that mean our prohibition against murder is too strict?
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