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Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by briangray »

artemonster wrote: post #36
briangray wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went through a similar tool search (i.e. zettelkasten, roam, notable.md, dendron, etc). With the same notions of dendron operating only in VSCode. Long story, it didn't fit well for me. While dendron operated and was structured well, VSCode was just too slow to launch and not widely available enough for my use case. May be important to note though that I don't 'live' in VSCode like many others do. I settled on othe…

what do you use as a texteditor/IDE?

Are you asking specifically for notes or as the development environment that I _do_ live in?

For notes I'm (currently) using Obsidian.md, which has many of the same benefits of the previously mentioned systems. I settled on it because it allowed me to easily import notes from the previous apps and they are stored as simple markdown files. Which means I can access them using vi if I'm on a system that doesn't have Obsidian installed.

While I enjoy VSCode, most of my development is done in Visual Studio. And occasionally vi/vim for smaller applications.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by X6S1x6Okd1st »

ibn_khaldun wrote: post #89
X6S1x6Okd1st wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The joplin API works pretty well from my experience, although the note to note linkage is not great. The export of notes dumps as guid.md file name. I personally like it because it has the features I want, works well on mobile, local first backed up by sync (you provide the target) and the API isn't hard to use.

I was strongly considering Joplin the other day. I see it mentioned a lot at different sites. I respect how simple it is. The common trends seems to be based on stuffing as much features into an app to please the "Second brain" crowd, but I just want to take notes , I don't necessarily need all the graphs and glitter. Thank you.

It's under pretty heavy development and there is certainly some scope creep, but it's never impacted my core usage.

At least for me right now full text search, no lock in, good phone support and sync that works is all I need to build a good note taking habit.

IMO the value that you get from going from not taking notes to taking notes is much bigger than the value jump you get if you go from taking unstructured notes to structured notes .

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by johnfn »

dvt wrote: post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

> brainstorming without technology.

But what are pen and paper but really old technology? :-) And given they were able to revolutionize human thought, it seems possible that other such wins are out there, waiting for us to find them.

(I do agree with the sentiment that pen/pencil are currently the best we've got along multiple axes, probably with the exception of search.)

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by leephillips »

johnfn wrote: post #93
dvt wrote: post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

> brainstorming without technology. But what are pen and paper but really old technology? :-) And given they were able to revolutionize human thought, it seems possible that other such wins are out there, waiting for us to find them. (I do agree with the sentiment that pen/pencil are currently the best we've got along multiple axes, probably with the exception of search.)

And technology that some people were suspicious of in the past. If I recall correctly, Socrates was not strongly in favor of writing. He thought its use would weaken the memory. And there is some evidence people in cultures without writing have much better memories. So no technology is without it downsides.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by mkj »

ibn_khaldun wrote: post #81

If anyone can help. I am looking for note taking application that can fulfill the following requirements: - Plain-as-in-Plain Text - meaning I don't have to export my notes as JSON or XML or something else. Each note is a single .md or .txt file. - Full-text search - No Markup Lock-in - Meaning, for example, that I can use any flavor of Markdown (in my case MultiMarkdown) that I'd like and export/preview/build the fi…

I think fsnotes might fit your criteria? Or perhaps even nvalt

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by rovr138 »

probotect0r wrote: post #66
detritus wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do most note-taking on paper. Problem with paper is that it's not searchable, as I discovered to my cost trying to find some specific reference details for a job I did last year and am repeating today. My problems are probably more due to ad hoc disorganisation - particularly, sometimes going off-piste and making critical notes on random sheets of paper, away from my main notebooks. I'd love some kind of e-paper so…

I employ a simple version of the bullet journaling method. I maintain an index at the beginning of the book where I add topics and the page numbers that I have information about it on. Still not ctrl-f speed of course, but I am not flipping through my notebook trying to find the right page. For your situation, I'll probably right down the job reference on the page of the day, and then add a `Job References` entry in…

How much space have you found is good for an index?

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by lazyasciiart »

rovr138 wrote: post #97
probotect0r wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I employ a simple version of the bullet journaling method. I maintain an index at the beginning of the book where I add topics and the page numbers that I have information about it on. Still not ctrl-f speed of course, but I am not flipping through my notebook trying to find the right page. For your situation, I'll probably right down the job reference on the page of the day, and then add a `Job References` entry in…

How much space have you found is good for an index?

Not the poster you asked, but I keep one at the end of a notebook for exactly this reason: I don't have to guess how much space it will need.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by [deleted] »

dvt wrote: post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

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Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by lazyasciiart »

evo_9 wrote: post #70

I have tried a number of note taking apps including Bear and Notable; I recently switched to MS OneNote because it's cross-platform from OSX to PC, making it easier for me to consolidate all my notes in once desktop app. It's likely an unpopular choice given it's from 'Big-Co, Inc', etc, but it's hard to beat. My favorite feature that sold me is the ability to tab and instantly create an inline table (with each subse…

I've used OneNote religiously for a dozen years as a daily notes app, but the Mac and Web experiences are terrible and I'm just sick of it not syncing tags across my machines. And now I have a new laptop and as far as I can tell the ability to add tags to shortcut keys is just gone. Why???
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